Dynafit Mounting

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08 Apr 2013 18:13 #209393 by airpoppoff

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I picked up a set of Dynafit TLT Vertical FT's on the cheap ($380 @ bc.com) and need to get them mounted on my Seths. My seths have been drilled for Small Dukes, Large Dukes and now I'm going to be mounting these. I live in Central WA and don't really have any "Backcountry Shops" that I would even trust mounting these. I've read the wildsnow tutorial about 20 times and still don't think I feel comfortable doing it myself (at least the first time, as I mounted my own dukes just fine).

I'd be willing to drop them off with someone in Seattle, or closer, any suggestions?

TIA

Matt

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08 Apr 2013 18:49 #209394 by flowing alpy

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dukes are more difficult to mount imo.
do a trial mount on a 2x4, get it dialed in good then make a template off that.
drill holes just right, apply glue, screw in dynafiddles with direct downward presure.
not too tight you don't want a spinner.
easy and sets you free

bobby

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08 Apr 2013 19:02 #209395 by Charlie Hagedorn

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do a trial mount on a 2x4,

This! When you're done, you'll know if you can do it. If you're worried about repeatability, just flip the 2x4 over and do it again (make sure not to strip the screwheads ...)

If you want a shop to do it, there are plenty of great choices in Seattle. I'd trust Marmot and ProSki Seattle to do my skis, as I've seen their work firsthand on partner's skis, but lots of other shops should be great too.

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08 Apr 2013 19:23 #209396 by Andrew Carey

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What about Mountain Gear in Spokane (if it is closer than Seattle)?

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08 Apr 2013 19:28 #209397 by avajane

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What about Leavenworth Mountain Sports. I've talked to the owner or manager guy several times and I would guess that his guys know how to do a good mounting job.

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08 Apr 2013 19:39 #209398 by WhiteyWhite

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Alpine Experience, Oly WA

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08 Apr 2013 20:29 #209399 by airpoppoff

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dukes are more difficult to mount imo.
do a trial mount on a 2x4, get it dialed in good then make a template off that.
drill holes just right, apply glue, screw in dynafiddles with direct downward presure.
not too tight you don't want a spinner.
easy and sets you free
bobby

Thats what I'm talkin about. Why have I never thought of this?

Thanks for the input guys, I'm prolly going to try this, I'm in Yakima so really Seattle shops are the closest for me.

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08 Apr 2013 20:35 #209400 by Charlie Hagedorn

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I'm a big fan of either a drill stop, or better, an actual ski drill bit. They're cheap compared to a mount at a shop, and they keep you from drilling through your skis...

www.slidewright.com/alpine-binding-mounting-drill-bits.php

If mounting with a paper template, I check and recheck centering obsessively.

Happy mounting!

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08 Apr 2013 20:49 - 08 Apr 2013 22:50 #209402 by wooley12

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I'll save you some searching. Any more questions, ask away. Lots of help on this board.

Not sure what happened to Dynafit for Dummies I

www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboardi...01.msg52207#msg52207

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08 Apr 2013 21:07 #209403 by blackdog102395

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I refuse to pay a shop 50-75$ to mount bindings. I am an idiot and I have successfully mounted two sets of Dynafits. I just bought a new spring setup and I plan on mounting those myself as well. Wild snow and this thread guided my through:

www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.p...t=mount+fucking+skis

I highly recommend the paper technique to find the center of the ski and I also used a transparency instead of paper for the template. Also, use a punch before drilling. It keeps the drill bit from slipping. Good luck!

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08 Apr 2013 21:14 #209404 by JohnBox

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Could be a good move to drill the threads out of the toepiece plastic baseplate. Those gave me some trouble. Might be worth to read around on tgr.com too.

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08 Apr 2013 21:27 #209405 by airpoppoff

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This is all good shit, Thanks for your guys help, I'm going to destroy a 2x4 first but think I'll tackle this myself.

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09 Apr 2013 06:56 - 09 Apr 2013 07:00 #209410 by tele.skier

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I do all my own mounts. I am a cabinetmaker by trade, so I have the tools and a lot of hands on experience. The 2 x 4 idea is good, BUT I would use something a little better than an actual 2 x 4. A 4" strip ripped off of a 3/4" thick panel of finished plywood or a piece of surfaced solid lumber gives you a nicer surface to practice on.

This way you can actually calculate centering and precise distances for your mount and see how well your boot fits in that test mount before you drill into a ski.

2 x 4's aren't straight, or flat, nor do they have crisp edges to make measurements off of... A flatter, straighter piece of practice material allows you to get a better idea of how accurate your actual mount will be on a ski. Good luck....

that's just my $.02

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09 Apr 2013 07:33 - 09 Apr 2013 07:40 #209411 by Randito

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Info I found helpful and a template.

www.wildsnow.com/articles/dynafit_mount_...it_mount_2001_1.html

useful tools:

www.tognar.com/binding-drill-bit-alpine-...nordic-adult-junior/
www.tognar.com/12ab-ski-tap-metal-top-sheet
www.tognar.com/tap-handle-0-1-4/

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09 Apr 2013 18:00 #209420 by filbo

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They will mount them for you at the Sporthaus because they also sell them there and they mounted mine just fine, but be sure you let them know where you want them on your skis,or
Go to the Little Red School House past Naches and have Kim mount them for you. He is an old school guy and can do any mounting even if he doesn't have a template. Same thing though let him know where you want them on your skis

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09 Apr 2013 18:59 #209421 by Robie

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From the "Bottom Feeders workshop"
1) Somewhat mentioned above but again it's very important there is clearance in any and all binding holes for the screws to easily pass through. If not the thread will lock between binding and ski and leave a gap. In other words the diameter of any binding screw hole must be bigger than the outside diameter of any screw. This may be the number one reason for binding attachment to ski failure that I have seen over the years.
2) Tapping the screw hole is important most especially if you have a metal top sheet. I make my own tap using a binding screw and dremel disc my own longitudital groves (2) . Works good as most metal layers are alu or similar soft non ferrous metal.
3 Heartily concur on pre mounting on 2x4 ,1x4 or plywood.
4) Drink beer

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09 Apr 2013 20:24 #209423 by flowing alpy

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it feels great to free oneself from shop mounts.
bF

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13 Apr 2013 09:08 #209307 by airpoppoff

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So I mounted these up last night, It was much easier than I thought. Thanks for all your tips, I ended up taping up a drill bit with gaffeters tape and punched them all in, Had a couple out of line but the screws managed to find their way. Is the epoxy part that critical for these bindings? I never did it on my dukes. If so I'll get some today and remount them with epoxy tonight.

As I had them on the bench, I noticed something weird....

Problem is I don't know if one is bent down, or the other one is bent up. Anyone know if it can be fixed? They are 2 years old I doubt K2 would do anything? The one in the back is right about 3/4" taller than the other one just in the front, not the rear.

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13 Apr 2013 09:21 #209447 by Randito

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Glueing the screws with slow cure or marine epoxy seals water out of the ski's core and keeps the screws from loosening overtime -- highly reccommended. Avoid quick curing epoxies as they are slightly water soluable. Ureathane glue works as well -- but can be messy as it will "foam up" if you apply too much.

For the bent ski tips -- the question is -- do you want to straigten the bent one -- or bend the straight one? What's wrong with some extra tip rocker?

either way -- clamping the skis in the desired formation and gently warming them with a heat gun until they relax should even things up. I've used this method to add tip rocker to conventionally rockered skis

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13 Apr 2013 09:33 #209448 by Robie

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I've used this method to add tip rocker to conventionally rockered skis

really ? Pray, tell us more. Perhaps in another thread with pics .

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13 Apr 2013 13:19 #209449 by airpoppoff

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really ? Pray, tell us more. Perhaps in another thread with pics .

I would love to see some detail on this. I need to get this biaotch bent back.

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13 Apr 2013 14:35 #209450 by Randito

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I've moved since then and had to downsize my ski collection, so I no longer have those...

I clamped the skiis onto my workbench using C-clamps and pieces of 1x2 as both pads and blocks . With the tips blocked up on two pieces of 1x2 under the tip and clamped against the bench mid way between the tip and the toe piece I heated the ski with a heat gun until the I could see the tension in the ski relax. Let the ski cool for to room temp and the repeat on the other ski.

I did this with some skis I got for free and it definitely improved how they skiied off piste. I used them a half dozen times after the mod with no delamination detected. YMMV

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13 Apr 2013 19:41 #209462 by Kneel Turner

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K2 warrantee is two years. Act fast.

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