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Mt Adams beta?
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confirm you are driving to cold springs? even with some lower snow levels huh? hmm...
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Did you report the three you saw to the Rangers?
Did they do anything about it?
If there are snowmos on Adams, there are snowmos where they are not supposed to be, kinda like death and taxes. Ranger station is closed on weekends right now.
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as well, can one ride a dirt bike or a 4 wheeler on the south climb trail up to the wilderness boundary? if not, i'm very confused about why a snowmo can ride on the trail for large melted out sections and make a horrible mess.
spoke with father and son who camped at lunch counter on saturday 4/18 and confirmed seeing riders up there. They said they heard there was a USFS truck parked below that had a trailer for two sleds so they wondered if that was some FS personnel and they got close enough that they didn't see any markings whatsoever that would lead them to think it was FS persons (which it wouldn't be anyways). That said the FS persons truck and trailer (sans sleds) was parked there this morning (4/19) and evening..not sure what they're doing up there-would be interested to hear.
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BTW - Anybody have recent shots of the White Salmon/Avalanche Glaciers?
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would also notify Mt. Adams Ranger District & GPNF. I spoke with them this past week (they had attempted to use some 'techniques' to help enforce which obviously failed-being vague since these jackasses very well may glean info from here)
Mt.Adams Ranger District
District Ranger: Mosé Jones-Yellin
Phone: (509) 395 3402
GPNF:
Supervisor's Office
(360) 891-5000
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get any pictures of offenders? will be up tomorrow with telephoto lens. ..maybe piano wire
would also notify Mt. Adams Ranger District & GPNF. I spoke with them this past week (they had attempted to use some 'techniques' to help enforce which obviously failed-being vague since these jackasses very well may glean info from here)
Mt.Adams Ranger District
District Ranger: Mosé Jones-Yellin
Phone: (509) 395 3402
GPNF:
Supervisor's Office
(360) 891-5000
Piano wire? Killing with your car is legal, but piano wire isn't. You may want to re-think that.
Edit to add:
x2 on the request for photos! That is helpful in identifying when incursions take place and when they do, catching the d-bags.
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I suppose if every snomo rig & trailer had flat tires that might elicit LEO/ranger presence to the area.
I will be ready with my camera. I had two of these shitheads come by me on the trail near the car last weekend-ripping up the tread where there wasn't snow but was not ready with camera.
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Skied on Adams today, started out nice and quiet, one skintrack through the fresh snow, light wind. Made it the bottom of south butte and the brap brap gang went over the top of south butte and up suksdorf. Another crew shredded crescent glacier to the point I didn't even bother taking a lap on it. Everything between Crescent and South butte had snomo tracks on it by the time I came down. If you find this unacceptable please send an email to Jamie Herrera Beutler via her site: herrerabeutler.house.gov/ and cc her outreach director This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. with your concerns.
Thanks Patarero for the link. A message can also be sent to Gifford Pinchot Nat Forest at www.fs.usda.gov/contactus/giffordpinchot/about-forest/contactus.
Just so everyone is clear - this is deep in a wilderness area. Snomos are not prohibited on Mt Adams - it's the wilderness they are trespassing on. Makes me wonder if this actually happens all winter, and the early melt just makes it noticeable this year.
WA St is very clear on using motorized vehicles in wilderness - punishable with $500 fine/6 months in jail penalty:
www.parks.wa.gov/DocumentCenter/Home/View/908
Wilderness isn't just to give people a quiet place to recreate - it's important for wildlife too - wolverines have been sighted in that area:
www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/wolver...mera-on-mount-adams/
I know, preaching to the choir...
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Only saw 2 snomos in Wilderness but it was while we were near top of Crescent Glacier. I have a picture of 1 but it is at such a distance as to not be useful, as they were maybe 1/2 mile inside the line. They left before we got there--no trailer in lot even.
But here is the proof. Tracks all up to South Butte. Up ridge that goes to top of South Butte. High marking all over Crescent Glacier. Entire area is wildly tracked out. I wish ill will to those who did this. This link is publicly available please share anywhere relevant.
drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BxYl3RAq...fTTJPT0U&usp=sharing
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I got a an email reply from a (the?) Wilderness Manager, who stated that he was investigating the incident. He asked about the photos and whether I had any other information. I replied with a "sorry, no", but included a link to this thread.
Speak up if you have pictures or information!
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Watching forecast freezing levels is a good way to know when corn will ripen. My number for Adams would be roughly equivalent to summit elevation. Works for any mountain.
What forecast gives freezing level?
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What forecast gives freezing level?
www.wrh.noaa.gov/total_forecast/getprod....=pqr&pil=ZFP&sid=PQR
Watching forecast freezing levels is a good way to know when corn will ripen. My number for Adams would be roughly equivalent to summit elevation. Works for any mountain.
Also, don't forget terrain aspect, time of day, cloud cover, wind, and how many days since the last snowfall.
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Sunday was nice, bit windy right at pikers but less wind on the plateau and summit and below pikers--must have just been funneling through there. SW chutes skied lovely--so nice.. full coverage and a short skin over the the lip/edge of crescent bowl and a fun drop down from there back to the wilderness boundary
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