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Resort Touring While Lifts Are Running?
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<br><br>That would be Duncan. ;D He has kind of a special status, being the manager and all.<br><br>That aside, Baker has no problem with this, so along as you do not get in the way of the paid skiers.<br><br>... I have seen even snowshoers plodding uphill beneath Chair 8 at Baker...
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<br><br>No, the Patrol Race began at Lodge Lake, which is west of the Cascade Crest, just over the Beaver Lake pass from Summit West. Weird, huh?<br><br>When the Mounties built their original lodge in 1914, the Snoqualmie Tunnel was just being finished from Rockdale to Hyak. There was no year-round road access to the pass. The best way to get to their lodge in winter was be to de-train at Rockdale and hike. They built their lodge at Lodge Lake, west of the crest. The race started there and stayed west of the crest to Ollalie Meadow. The lodge burned down in 1944, after the race was discontinued.<br>This trail isn't a secert btw, it is in at least one of the x-country guides for washington, and I believe the mounty's may have some info on it. Can't remeber, but I think it was part of the old "Patrol Race" course. Lowell, I know we've talked about this? Is this true?
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<br><br>Just to play devils advocate here......<br><br>Over on Yellowstone road there are many cabins located on leased USFS land. Would you expect those folks who leased that land to allow you to pitch a tent on the land they leased, or should they have any say if you wanted to go hiking through that same land?<br><br>The Snoqualmie ski areas are a combination of private and leased land. I would assume there might be some liability assumed by the ski area too, if they allowed non-paying folks to hike the slopes. What if a skier ran into someone hiking uphill and was hurt. Could he sue the ski area because they allowed this person to hike the hill? <br><br>I hike the hills myself, but I always try to do so nearest to the boundry if possible. I've seen some folks hike right up the middle of a run, which sometimes can be a pain in the butt for people skiing/boarding downhill and personally I feel that type of ski-area hiking is very inconsiderate to those who have paid for the use of the hill (just my opinion). <br><br>If you are descrete about your hiking, most of the time there won't be an issue. If you hike in a way that says "hey look at me, I'm hiking uphill" then you can expect the snow cops to come looking for you because you may be a hazard to others or even a liability to the ski area.<br><br>I always assumed that Snoq Summit operated, at least in part, on USFS leased land. I am wondering what kind of latitude the leaseholder has with regard to establishment of these kinds of policies, especially when a publicized USFS mission statement is "to provide the greatest amount of good for the greatest amount of people in the long run." I can understand there may need to be occasional limits for safety reasons, but a total ban on non-ticketed individuals seems a bit over the top.<br>
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<br><br>In Scandinavia there is a tradition called "Everyman's right" ( "Allemansret" ) which holds that you may cross another person's land and even camp for a night as long as you don't damage anything or intrude too much on the landowner's privacy. (My Swedish heart swells with pride at such a progressive notion.)<br><br>Obviously the U.S. is a very different place. But considering that you're talking about leased public land, I don't think the person leasing the land should get too darned proprietary about it.Over on Yellowstone road there are many cabins located on leased USFS land. Would you expect those folks who leased that land to allow you to pitch a tent on the land they leased, or should they have any say if you wanted to go hiking through that same land?
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