TR Replies
Yes, if you're looking for enjoyable skiing, avoid Coleman-Deming, Squak, Boulder-Park Cleaver on Baker and Sulphide Glacier on Shuksan. I recommend you head south ;D
Speaking of Shuskins, you guys, the power-ski-shopper Robie called me last night to let me know that the K2 outlet in Fife is going to be open today and that there's some Shuskins, some AK Launchers and a whole gaggle of Piste Stinx for prices ranging for something like $100 to $150... even as low as $25 for some of the drilled and used Piste Stinx's.
Better get down there if you are looking for a deal on any of these. When Martin hears about it he's liable to head down there and clean...
Better get down there if you are looking for a deal on any of these. When Martin hears about it he's liable to head down there and clean...
they are mine. they're the updated model, called Alltrax Freeride. They're marketed as tele boards but the only time I've seen them on the slopes are with fixed heals so they make good alpine boards. They're named proper because I can take them anywhere and in any condition, though powder is the best. They certainly can take the punishment I give them.
Hey Corey, you can always donate them to a club, I know the UW Climbing Club has a few skis for members to borrow.
And BTW, I'm curious, what are your AT rigs? Those Shuksans sure looked nice...
Paul
And BTW, I'm curious, what are your AT rigs? Those Shuksans sure looked nice...
Paul
Ok, I've got to ask. Who's skiing the fischer expedition hitrax skis? I only ask because those were my first backcountry skis and they hold a special place in my heart. Of course, I love my current skis so much (K2 Shuksans) that it would be hard to go back.
That gets me thinking. Folks that know me would probably agree that I have a potentially excessive ski collection. I just can't resist, when I see a beautiful pair with nice curves I get smitten. Th...
That gets me thinking. Folks that know me would probably agree that I have a potentially excessive ski collection. I just can't resist, when I see a beautiful pair with nice curves I get smitten. Th...
LOL!!!! Good eyes. And your reply. Paul?
Ron, thanks for the beers. They hit the spot. I have scars on my ankles from that day. That's a first.
Ron, thanks for the beers. They hit the spot. I have scars on my ankles from that day. That's a first.
I heard that Glacier peak is also not skiiable. So don't go up there either. ;D
That's right everybody, like Amar said, the skiing sucked. It was terrible. Don't go to Baker. Everybody, move to Colorado!
Nice pics, Todd.
And I see you got it film, photographic proof that Geezer Paul walked off without his poles!! ;D
http://community.webshots.com/photo/84589800/84591727fHUnHF
And I see you got it film, photographic proof that Geezer Paul walked off without his poles!! ;D
http://community.webshots.com/photo/84589800/84591727fHUnHF
http://community.webshots.com/photo/84589800/84590473CjonzW
With much thought involved, I finally was able to catch Paul's best side. ;)
With much thought involved, I finally was able to catch Paul's best side. ;)
Has anybody seen Paul's poles? Where can those confounded poles be? ???
They might be next to Ron's 'Minty planks of love'. ;D
http://community.webshots.com/album/84589800SktFOD
Mark: I'm sure you understand my comments were completely tongue-in-cheek. Keep up the great, colorful TRs!
Gaper Jeffy
whose tongue is permanently stuck in cheek
Gaper Jeffy
whose tongue is permanently stuck in cheek
Hey Amar, do you have any more photos?
I thought the lower 1500 feet were great; then again, I haven't skied Baker before, so I don't know how good it can get. As you said, the runnels were not very enjoyable. Oh, well, it was still a nice trip. And in August, I'll take what I can get. :)
I thought the lower 1500 feet were great; then again, I haven't skied Baker before, so I don't know how good it can get. As you said, the runnels were not very enjoyable. Oh, well, it was still a nice trip. And in August, I'll take what I can get. :)
I figured I would add a few more details plus a photo. Our camp was located on a large flat beside a major waterfall at about 5800 ft. From the first major creek crossing at 5100 ft on the Scott Paul trail, the most direct way is to follow the creek right to the waterfall (we followed a moraine ridge just west of this). We skied right to/from our campsite.
As for the route itself, the Squak Glacier is in OK condition crevasse-wise for August, we needed to belay only a single crossing duri...
As for the route itself, the Squak Glacier is in OK condition crevasse-wise for August, we needed to belay only a single crossing duri...
It's nice to see PNW skiers get some cover time! Good work Ema! ;D
Well Ron, you know what they say 'The check is in the mail':DAnd thanks for the cold cans of Bud they were mighty tasty!!
Paul
Paul
ron,
ay, i'm swelling with pride :)
never submitted anything to telemarktips, but figured mitch doesn't get that much new material in august so my chances are pretty good !
ay, i'm swelling with pride :)
never submitted anything to telemarktips, but figured mitch doesn't get that much new material in august so my chances are pretty good !
Um.. Ah.. I didn't actually see any $ change hands there, Paul. If it actually did, it obviously means you should have paid it to ME!
8)
8)
Aww... c'mon, Mark. Not THAT.
Yer not punchin' my VIP ticket again, are ya?
:D
Yer not punchin' my VIP ticket again, are ya?
:D
Congrad's.
Your great shot made "The Cover of the Rolling Stone" (so to speak) :D
Your great shot made "The Cover of the Rolling Stone" (so to speak) :D
Ok Jeff, I'm trying to evade various pressing responsibilities at the moment, so let's deconstruct that sentence:
"Totally unprecedented" is a deliberate exaggeration for (presumed) effect.
"Record-breaking" is loosely based on the recent spate of newspaper articles featuring quotes from various experts: "Never saw it this bad before...." etc. etc. etc.
"melting snow at a ferocious rate" is a direct observation.
And "annua...
"Totally unprecedented" is a deliberate exaggeration for (presumed) effect.
"Record-breaking" is loosely based on the recent spate of newspaper articles featuring quotes from various experts: "Never saw it this bad before...." etc. etc. etc.
"melting snow at a ferocious rate" is a direct observation.
And "annua...
Selected climo data: (more here and many other places I'm sure if you look)
In short, both June and July were warmer and much drier than average. I remember hearing that the dry spell we had was one of the longest recorded.
JUNE CLIMATOLOGICAL REPORT FOR SEA-TAC AIRPORT NATIONAL WEATHER
SERVICE SEATTLE WA
230 AM PST TUE JUL 1 2003
TEMPERATURE DATA......
&n...
In short, both June and July were warmer and much drier than average. I remember hearing that the dry spell we had was one of the longest recorded.
JUNE CLIMATOLOGICAL REPORT FOR SEA-TAC AIRPORT NATIONAL WEATHER
SERVICE SEATTLE WA
230 AM PST TUE JUL 1 2003
TEMPERATURE DATA......
&n...
Well, Mad Dog, I'll have to ask for the $ 20 back that I thought was a good bribe, so much for honesty amongst skiers!;D Indeed the flowers were at thier peak with some very bright yellow monkey flowers just past the waterfall. An excellent corn harvest it was and taken in with good company.We'll have to do again real soon, skiing the ah,...well I'll be darned if I can't remember, has anyone seen my ski poles?. Todd says he has some more pictures that he'll post soon.
Later
Paul
Later
Paul
Mark:
Excellent tr.
One question:
Being the young, skeptical, not-smart gaper that I am, I am curious as to the factual basis supporting your statement, "Our annual, totally unprecedented, record-breaking drought and heat wave has been melting snow at a ferocious rate".
My understanding from Amar Andalkar's 2002-2003 Cascade Snowfall and Snowpack summary was that as of May 1st Mt. Baker had 100% average snowdepth:
http://www.skimountaineer.com/CascadeSki/Casc...
Excellent tr.
One question:
Being the young, skeptical, not-smart gaper that I am, I am curious as to the factual basis supporting your statement, "Our annual, totally unprecedented, record-breaking drought and heat wave has been melting snow at a ferocious rate".
My understanding from Amar Andalkar's 2002-2003 Cascade Snowfall and Snowpack summary was that as of May 1st Mt. Baker had 100% average snowdepth:
http://www.skimountaineer.com/CascadeSki/Casc...
Greg - Thanks for the kind words. Anything to help out a fellow bc skier -- especially one stranded in Milwaukee!!
Mark - I know how you feel, mate. Those semi-senility years just keep getting closer. Maybe if you can just remember how to get to Paradise I might figure out how to get my walker close to some skiable snow??.
Mark - I know how you feel, mate. Those semi-senility years just keep getting closer. Maybe if you can just remember how to get to Paradise I might figure out how to get my walker close to some skiable snow??.
5:45 for 3650 with a crowd of teenagers sounds fast to me - heck, that's not too bad for some old farts either...
As another data point, I'll note that last year when I visited Hadley in mid-August, the mosquitos were equally voracious. Both of my write-ups on the experience mention how bad they were. However, I thought that after getting through the mosquitos, the skiing was quite worthy of the effort.
To cope with the mosquitos, one could just start hiking from the car while wearing ski pants, jacket, and head net. I stopped to put on my pants and jacket last year (no head net) m...
To cope with the mosquitos, one could just start hiking from the car while wearing ski pants, jacket, and head net. I stopped to put on my pants and jacket last year (no head net) m...
You certainly are getting a lot of use out of The Place Where All The Snow Goes For The Summer. Apparently, you've even mastered the art of flattening suncups by repeated spooning of tracks; thus, the skiing looks better and smoother each time you go. Too bad I'm so forgetful I can't even remember how to get there, or I'd join you once or twice.
Ron: You and your group are uncanny at picking a spot, and then riding it out until you find the next great spot!
Nice photos. I'm in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, checking up on my (enviable) soulmates laying down the cool lines. Thanks, again, for such great photographic documentation; it;s the next best thing to being there.
Greg Lange
Nice photos. I'm in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, checking up on my (enviable) soulmates laying down the cool lines. Thanks, again, for such great photographic documentation; it;s the next best thing to being there.
Greg Lange
Turned out to be a pretty good ski day for August on a low snow year.
Here's a shot of Todd rippin' it up:

More pics (3 pages of 'em!) are at:
http://groups.msn.com/WildHeartsSkiing/paradise8303.msnw
Here's a shot of Todd rippin' it up:

More pics (3 pages of 'em!) are at:
http://groups.msn.com/WildHeartsSkiing/paradise8303.msnw
I'm impressed, and yes, it does count as a streak-countable ski trip. Let's face it, kudo's, to the kids for going that far and having a great time. Shoot, this past weekend, I was wanting to "whine" about the time I hit the Stevens-Van Trump memorial until I remembered that your two BC skiers made it all the way back in there. Keep up the good work, you've only just begun to scratch the surface. ;D
Thanks, Sky. I've seen poor quality snow on the Squak...in early October. Glad to hear it's surviving the heat wave in good shape.
Mark, the good skiing is down low on the Squak, as you might have guessed. I have never seen it without quality snow just above the gullies. Scott Paul? (the immediate right) from Schreiber Meadows TH, and then let your instincts guide you.
Ah ha, good to get those August turns, and even enjoyable ones at that! It's too bad we couldn't summit earlier, with more time the Park Headwall may have been tempting, eh? Good skiing, Paul...
Thanks for the report. Where was your camp? In other words, where was the good corn? Surely not on the Easton? Maybe down low on the Squak?
Mark
Mark
Niiice.
Good score, ema.
Thanks for sharing it.
Good score, ema.
Thanks for sharing it.
Looks streak-countable to me. At least they're not sitting in the car drinking beer! ;D
That's cool, Charles. It's also impressive that you got them in there, especially the mini-dude, without a modicum of complaining.
Glad to see # 2 is well on his way to enjoying the backcountry. Well done.
That's cool, Charles. It's also impressive that you got them in there, especially the mini-dude, without a modicum of complaining.
Glad to see # 2 is well on his way to enjoying the backcountry. Well done.
ema, thanks for the report. From the recent TRs it looks like Ptarmigan Ridge is a good destination for August turns, and perhaps it will be so for the even more problematic September turns.
Was there enough snow to last until August 18th?...that's the next oppurtunity I have for some hiking. Also, would I HAVE to use cramp-ons and picks to be able to get to skiable terrain?
Jerry and Ron, great photos! Yet another summer skiing tradition is born. I'm wondering, though, why there are no photos of Ron water skiing??
What a scream! ;D This is one way to keep cool on a hot day. Wish I could have participated.
Hey Mark...guess we just missed you. I was wondering about the difference in actual distance. From what I remember, you're out on the ridgeline on Skyline in no time from the car. From there, it's just a long slog along the ridge.
Yes, the skeets were close to debilitating. I would venture to guess that we were continuously swormed by a pack of several dozen in terms of actual numbers.
No question that the views get evermore impressive as you move south alon...
Yes, the skeets were close to debilitating. I would venture to guess that we were continuously swormed by a pack of several dozen in terms of actual numbers.
No question that the views get evermore impressive as you move south alon...
I've walked Cougar Divide several times; twice for the skiing and at least once for the walk itself. The bugs are seldom as bad as you describe. This seems to be peak season in a bad year. FWIW, I was on Skyline Divide Sunday, and while the mosquitoes were perfectly tolerable, the horseflies, deerflies and blackflies were pretty bad, especially late in the day. Given the choice, I'd pick a colder, windier day.
Nice scenery up there, bugs or no bugs. It...
Nice scenery up there, bugs or no bugs. It...
Thanks for the info.
The bugs really seemed serious on that trip, almost debilitating.
I'll have a good look at the map. I was on Skyline Divide earlier in the season and it did look like it would have added considerable miles to the destination, but for an overnight probably not a big issue.
Thanks again.
The bugs really seemed serious on that trip, almost debilitating.
I'll have a good look at the map. I was on Skyline Divide earlier in the season and it did look like it would have added considerable miles to the destination, but for an overnight probably not a big issue.
Thanks again.
Yes, the route is fairly obvious if Hadley Peak is your destination. I'd opt for camping well along the ridgeline far away from any trees. As for skiing, there are some options. If I were to do an overnight, I would likely access the Mazama Glacier for a ski descent (few runnels, suncups and essentially crevasse free). This can be reached by the ridgeline along Hadley Peak just to the east of the summit pyramid (and assuming you skin/climb up the main NW face of Hadley on...
Nice to see folks reporting from north of the boarder, Jonathan. There's some sweet bc skiing in BC ;) and we don't hear enough about your favorite haunts. Thanks for your reports.
Yeah, BCRider, we were thinking that the annual "slush cup" competition would be a good way for us year-round "streakers" to have some fun and get our August turns in every year with a minimal accumulation of torture points.
Love to have you turn out for the competition next year... And to heck with lobbying for a board division; if your equipment allows you to take the win, so be it!! Kinda makes up for some of the suffering you do on the flats & rolling terrain, rig...
Love to have you turn out for the competition next year... And to heck with lobbying for a board division; if your equipment allows you to take the win, so be it!! Kinda makes up for some of the suffering you do on the flats & rolling terrain, rig...
Looks like loads of fun ron j, Randy, and JW.
Nice pics in those gallery links!
If this becomes an annual event I'll try to make it to next years. I will be petitioning however for a "boarder" division. Our single surface-area gives us an advantage. :)
Nice pics in those gallery links!
If this becomes an annual event I'll try to make it to next years. I will be petitioning however for a "boarder" division. Our single surface-area gives us an advantage. :)