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August 3, 2003, MRNP PG (bestir to bestiality)
« on: 08/04/03, 04:21 AM »

It's been a fine summer here in the PNW  Cool with wonderful hot weather, only thing, our snow is melting away fast.  Thinking about where to go and what to ski left little to ponder since most of the lower elevation has been blanketed in the prolific beauty of wildflowers.  There were 4 of us that met for our August harvest, Paul, Todd, Ron, and myself for the Paradise Glacier and surrounding fields, hoping to find some of that late season corn.  We arrived at the lower Paradise parking around 8:30ish, loaded skis on packs and headed up the Mazama trail in the beauty of lush greenery and sweet smells of wildflowers, taking a short break at the Stevens-Van Trump memorial.  Amazing how one can be so easily overwhelmed by the beauty that you seem to forget that ski poles are a handy item to have, huh Paul.  Just a short detour back and he was good to go again, no problem.  Guess this now puts you in the same catagory with "Markharf", since I've heard that he looses things too.  We carried our skis to the end of the maintained trail where we were able to start skinning.  The Paradise Glacier moraine is melting out, but still enough coverage that we were able to skin into the large waterfall rock area towards the north end, center, of the moraine before de-skiing.  The Paradise Glacier itself is still in pretty good condition, with some dirty glacier icy patches on climbers left, skiers left, still provides some nice options with minimal sun cupping.  The four of us "stashed" some of our gear at certain locations to lighten our packs for our August "harvest", and harvest we did, with almost 1,000vf of sweet summer, sun ripened corn, for our first run!   Grin  Climbing back to the top just to do it again for another 1,000.  We returned to the car after 5, noticing that the overflow from the Paradise parking was spilling down the lower road more than half the distance.  If not for the skiing, it's a great time to view the flowers.  We did see the resident mountain goat, grazing, perched high amidst the cliffs on the glacier moraine.
Ron will have photos available for viewing shortly.
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #1 on: 08/04/03, 07:19 AM »

Turned out to be a pretty good ski day for August on a low snow year.
Here's a shot of Todd rippin' it up:


More pics (3 pages of 'em!) are at:
http://groups.msn.com/WildHeartsSkiing/paradise8303.msnw
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #2 on: 08/04/03, 07:34 AM »

Ron: You and your group are uncanny at picking a spot, and then riding it out until you find the next great spot!

Nice photos. I'm in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, checking up on my (enviable) soulmates laying down the cool lines. Thanks, again, for such great photographic documentation; it;s the next best thing to being there.


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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #3 on: 08/04/03, 07:54 AM »

You certainly are getting a lot of use out of The Place Where All The Snow Goes For The Summer.  Apparently, you've even mastered the art of flattening suncups by repeated spooning of tracks; thus, the skiing looks better and smoother each time you go.  Too bad I'm so forgetful I can't even remember how to get there, or I'd join you once or twice.

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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #4 on: 08/05/03, 12:39 AM »

Greg - Thanks for the kind words.  Anything to help out a fellow bc skier -- especially one stranded in Milwaukee!!

Mark - I know how you feel, mate.  Those semi-senility years just keep getting closer.  Maybe if you can just remember how to get to Paradise I might figure out how to get my walker close to some skiable snow??.
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #5 on: 08/05/03, 11:41 AM »

Well, Mad Dog, I'll have to ask for the $ 20 back that I thought was a good bribe, so much for honesty amongst skiers!;D Indeed the flowers were at thier peak with some very bright yellow monkey flowers just past the waterfall. An excellent corn harvest it was and taken in with good company.We'll have to do again real soon, skiing the ah,...well I'll be darned if I can't remember, has anyone seen my ski poles?. Todd says he has some more pictures that he'll post soon.
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #6 on: 08/07/03, 02:49 AM »

Um.. Ah.. I didn't actually see any $ change hands there, Paul.  If it actually did, it obviously means you should have paid it to ME!
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #7 on: 08/07/03, 08:58 AM »

Well Ron, you know what they say 'The check is in the mail':DAnd thanks for the cold cans of Bud they were mighty tasty!!

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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #8 on: 08/08/03, 01:24 AM »


Has anybody seen Paul's poles?  Where can those confounded poles be? Huh


They might be next to Ron's 'Minty planks of love'. Grin

http://community.webshots.com/album/84589800SktFOD
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #9 on: 08/08/03, 01:28 AM »

http://community.webshots.com/photo/84589800/84590473CjonzW

With much thought involved, I finally was able to catch Paul's best side.    Wink
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #10 on: 08/08/03, 01:44 AM »

Nice pics, Todd.
And I see you got it film, photographic proof that Geezer Paul walked off without his poles!! Grin
http://community.webshots.com/photo/84589800/84591727fHUnHF
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #11 on: 08/08/03, 11:43 AM »

LOL!!!!  Good eyes.  And your reply. Paul?

Ron, thanks for the beers.  They hit the spot.   I have scars on my ankles from that day.   That's a first.  
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #12 on: 08/08/03, 04:33 PM »

Ok, I've got to ask.  Who's skiing the fischer expedition hitrax skis?  I only ask because those were my first backcountry skis and they hold a special place in my heart.  Of course, I love my current skis so much (K2 Shuksans) that it would be hard to go back.

That gets me thinking.  Folks that know me would probably agree that I have a potentially excessive ski collection.  I just can't resist, when I see a beautiful pair with nice curves I get smitten.  That, combined with some years of more forced overtime than I want has led me to 3 randonee and 2 downhill rigs, along with a couple "old girlfriends" that still take my calls once in a while.  This is not counting those black & yellow fischers.

So, is there anyone out there (or does anyone know someone) who might want a free pair of fischer hitrax expedition skis?  They are 193's and I believe the stats are something like 107-70-97.  They are pretty lightweight, and although certainly used, they probably have some life left.  They have drill holes from dynafit bindings.  The ideal candidate would like skiing a lot more than working (I suppose that goes for all of us actually), perhaps a ubiquitous member of the "leisure class" that exists in the lower realms of the economic strata.  A poor college student or someone getting started in backcountry skiing would also be the kind of person I am looking for.
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #13 on: 08/08/03, 05:34 PM »

Hey Corey, you can always donate them to a club, I know the UW Climbing Club has a few skis for members to borrow.

And BTW, I'm curious, what are your AT rigs? Those Shuksans sure looked nice...

Paul
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #14 on: 08/08/03, 05:47 PM »

they are mine.  they're the updated model, called Alltrax Freeride.  They're marketed as tele boards but the only time I've seen them on the slopes are with fixed heals so they make good alpine boards.  They're named proper because I can take them anywhere and in any condition, though powder is the best.   They certainly can take the punishment I give them.  
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #15 on: 08/09/03, 01:50 AM »

Speaking of Shuskins, you guys, the power-ski-shopper Robie called me last night to let me know that the K2 outlet in Fife is going to be open today and that there's some Shuskins, some AK Launchers and a whole gaggle of Piste Stinx for prices ranging for something like $100 to $150... even as low as $25 for some of the drilled and used Piste Stinx's.
Better get down there if you are looking for a deal on any of these.  When Martin hears about it he's liable to head down there and clean them out; at least of the Shuskins.  I would if I were him.
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #16 on: 08/09/03, 05:53 AM »

thanks for the heads up, Ron.  Any idea where in Fife the K2 outlet is?
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #17 on: 08/09/03, 06:22 AM »

It's right there on 20th street in fife in the same complex as the big Sportco store (around the corner).  
The K2 outlet only opens sporatically, presumably when they build up an excess of extra gear.
I just came back from there.  There was several sets of AK Launchers (2@165 + others), 1 set of Work Stinx @ 190, 1 set of Shuskins (185's?) all at $150 as I recall, + a bunch of others @ $100 (totally's, supers, and such).
All the older stuff (mostly kids and non-shaped) was like around $20.

(edited to remove map link which seemed to make thread excessively wide)
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #18 on: 08/09/03, 06:29 AM »

Thanks, Ron.  Sounds like I might be making a purchase this afternoon.  
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #19 on: 08/09/03, 12:54 PM »

mission successfull!!!!  I pick up a new pair of Work Stinx and a pair of totally Piste, all for the grand sum of $200.   Paul picked up a pair of Piste Stinx for his neighbor and a pair of Shuksans for himself.  All for about $150.  thanks again for the headsup.
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #20 on: 08/09/03, 01:36 PM »

cool.
Rock on.
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #21 on: 08/10/03, 04:14 AM »

I'm glad those skis went to friendlies ! The only problem with owning a lot of skis is that you gotta have a lot bindings and skins. I don't dare bring anymore home cause Mrs Robie (Laurie )is getting hip to all my hiding spots!Thanks to Ron for passing it on cause I got busy.
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #22 on: 08/10/03, 07:13 AM »

Man, those look like good deals!  BTW are there any Shuksans left?  

These are my setups:

185 K2 Shuksans with Tri-steps
184 Atomic 10.ex with Fritchis
190 Dynafit AT carve lite with Dynafit TLT binding

2 pairs 194 Salomon Super Mountain with Salomon Alpine binding (1 pair with demo bindings that I often let friends use because they adjust to any boot).

The Shuksans are my current overall favorite in terms of performance / weight ratio.  The Atomics really rip (I usually like a soft ski though, these respond best when you really power them up) but are a bit heavier.  I have toured with them although I tend to use them maily on lifts.  They work well for mid-winter variable conditions when you need a ski that blasts through the junk, and being fat they also float the pow very well.  The Dynafit skis were what I replaced my original boards (the fischers) with, and I think they are good skis but since I got the Shuksans I haven't skied them.  They are rather light though (<6lbs) so I do plan to keep using them when appropriate.  The Salomon Super Mountain is really a great ski that is lots of fun to ride.  One year after breaking my last pair of straight skis early in the season I was lucky to have a buddy that worked in the rental shop at Alpental.  I had more free time then but less money.  So, just about every morning, I would cruise into the rental shop where my buddy would let me take out whatever ski I wanted.  Soon the other guys in the shop knew me and they would let me have skis too even when my friend wasn't working, so it was a pretty favorable arrangement.  Of the skis I tried, the Super Mountains were just perfect for Alpental, so I bought a pair before the next season.  Eventually I found a good deal on another pair with demo bindings (I was making better money by this point and I don't have any kids, dogs, or really any other expensive hobby).

So that's the story of my excessive ski collection.  In my defense there have been a lot of times while living at Apental that I have been able to hook up friends & family with rad skis to ride.  I do believe that good boards (read: basically anything high-end made in the last 4-5 years or so) can realy improve the experience for most skiers, especially the ones that only ski a couple times of year and don't always get the chance to have perfect technique.
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #23 on: 08/10/03, 07:30 AM »

Paul snatched up the last Shuksan (not a scratch for $100)  

It sounds like your quiver is a bit more extensive than mine.  

I have the Fischer Freerides (195 cm) with G3 bindings, an old pair of Montets (203 cm) and a broken pair of Piste Stinx (197 cm) both with Voile three pin cable bindings.  The Work Stinx (190 cm and $100 without a scratch)  will get a new pair of hammerheads while the Totally Piste (190 cm and also $100 without a scatch) is a bit smaller than I'm used to but should be great for ripping hairpin turns on piste hardpack.  I was going to put the Voile three pins on them, unless I have a change  of heart and put the Hammerheads on them.  Not too sure on this.  The Totally Piste would be great on the Muir field (or Stash) during the dog days of summer.

I spend my winters at Steven's, though Alpental is a nice place to visit.  Might have to plan a trip up.  Let the snow fly this winter!!!!
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Re: August 3, 2003, MRNP Paradise Glacier (Harvest
« Reply #24 on: 08/11/03, 01:43 AM »

Nice quiver, alpentalcorey.  There's prolly some AK LawnChairs left; 150 bones, them'd be good for big dump freshies days.

Todd and Paul, good score.  Looks to me like you owe Robie a beer or something  Wink
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