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Re: How effective are avalanche airbags?
« Reply #25 on: 04/06/17, 01:46 PM »

If you want a somewhat more "breezy" presentation on the research, my presentation to a regional "SAW" is linked from the second paragraph here:
http://avycourse.blogspot.com/2010/04/additional-educational-resources.html
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Re: How effective are avalanche airbags?
« Reply #26 on: 12/10/17, 09:37 AM »

Don't be so modest.... Much more than that Wink
Im heading to Haines tomorrow to inflate my own ego and will be a heli- fan boy for a few days.
I'll let you know how the guides stack up compared to our beloved NCH guides.
Interestingly enough they provide you with a mandatory avy air bag pack and a mandatory harness.
Hope the weather cooperates.
hey Scotsman did you ever ask those Alaskan guides if they report their near-miss accidents to their potential client base?

Or were they too stoned or hungover to deal with relevant safety concerns and just wanted to rock and roll and party on?
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Re: How effective are avalanche airbags?
« Reply #27 on: 12/10/17, 10:40 AM »

An airbag deployment most likely saved the life of a skier in that tunnel creak avalanche.

i don't use one because of the added pack weight and a bad back.There's also the question of taking greater risks due to having one and perceived avalanche protection (see risk homostasis theory)

i am trying to get a local designer intertested in designing a light weight air tight pack that you would blow up, using lung power or light weight volume pump, before you descend.

the idea is to inflate the pack volume after you empty the pack of your descent kit.

 An inflated pack may also help with tree well falls and object¬† hits, as well as avys.

I don't know if it would  have the volume of an airbag however.



I have also wanted an inflatable pack for another reason, backcountry skiing out of a wilderness camp.  Once you remove all your camp gear from your pack, it becomes difficult to carry your skis on that pack. The loose skis end up banging my calves. 

I have taken to packing a beach ball, which I stuff into the empty pack body, and then  inflate to stiffen up the pack body.  This really helps keep the skis from flopping around as I climb. Your inflatable pack could possibly do double duty in this regard.


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Re: How effective are avalanche airbags?
« Reply #28 on: 12/11/17, 09:07 AM »

An inflatable air mattress works well for this function and it's likely something that you would carry anyway. I have an older full length Therm-a-rest Ultralight that I have used for the purpose of providing enough volume in the pack to make a-frame ski carry manageable.
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Re: How effective are avalanche airbags?
« Reply #29 on: 12/11/17, 10:09 AM »

An inflatable air mattress works well for this function and it's likely something that you would carry anyway. I have an older full length Therm-a-rest Ultralight that I have used for the purpose of providing enough volume in the pack to make a-frame ski carry manageable.

Thanks for the tip, that sounds like a good idea that I had not thought of!
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