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androolus
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May 25, 2015 Muir
« on: 05/26/15, 08:32 AM »

This is more a rant about weather forecasting lameness than a trip report. It was quite sunny at Muir on Monday. We had a delightful tour though it started in the fog and ended in the fog. The fog creeped up to 7500 by 3pm when we were descending, making the nisqually chutes a little more dicey. But clearly there was overnight freezing and the corn was pretty good from muir to the bottom of the chutes. I was expecting it to be too soft for good skiing but I was pleasantly surprised.

I saw pictures from rainier, adams and st helens showing nice clear skies (above a certain elevation)...so I'm wishing that the NOAA forecasts could have indicated clearing above a certain elevation...and that I hadn't cancelled my plans for an adams fest. Did anyone see a forecast showing clearing above?
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Re: May 25, 2015 Muir
« Reply #1 on: 05/26/15, 09:43 AM »

for sure! would be great if they could try to nail down cloud deck elevation!?  I've never been able to find such info.  please post if someone knows of any.
I had a similar experience last week, forecast was for cloud-rain, but Paradise was well above that.

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Re: May 25, 2015 Muir
« Reply #2 on: 05/26/15, 09:46 AM »

search for "cloud water"
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt/rt/gfsinit.d3.html
then, pick the elevation you're looking for.

or, just do the "column integrated" option and you'll see the full picture.

note: this forecasting tool is a crapshoot too. i look at it and then start grabbing the grains of salt...
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Re: May 25, 2015 Muir
« Reply #3 on: 05/26/15, 10:30 AM »

I started a new thread that describes what I look for to predict cloud top elevation:

http://www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboarding/trip_reports/index.php?topic=34309.0
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Re: May 25, 2015 Muir
« Reply #4 on: 05/26/15, 11:28 AM »

I have been using mountain-forecast.com. It shows forecasts for different elevations which I find helpful for a quick go to for wind and was actually useful for cloud level too a couple weekends ago. It showed sun for Rainier at 8k and above when I went up to the prow a few weekends ago. Same for this weekend, but I didn't get a chance to get out this weekend to see if it was true. It has been pretty accurate when I've used it! http://www.mountain-forecast.com/peaks/Mount-Rainier
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Re: May 25, 2015 Muir
« Reply #5 on: 05/26/15, 02:12 PM »

great tips! thx people.
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Re: May 25, 2015 Muir
« Reply #6 on: 05/26/15, 04:51 PM »

Mostly cloudy


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