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18 May 2015 21:20 #224562 by Jake the Brit
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I'm unsure about the etiquette of promoting things on TAY. I put them in the yardsale too, but since it'd be nice to actually sell a few, I'm trying a bit of ruthless self-promotion::::::::::::

They turn your whippet into a 2nd ice ax. Great for plunging into hard snow. I used one on the top of Chaval where the snow was damned steep & had a evil crust.
I don’t have a gram-scale, but I reckon they don’t weigh much, and carry pretty well on a toggle, which comes with.

I have this part to fit the new Whippet (both carbon & normal) & I will get the ones to fit the slightly older blue-handle whippet in a week or so.
Thanks for reading. $20, I reckon I could put them in envelopes & they are Patent Pending, just so I can retire as either a Black Diamond wine-swilling executive or a patent troll.
Ha. Rock on.
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18 May 2015 21:39 #224563 by Shred
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Dibs on being your first TAY customer! I have the pre blue handle Whippets... got a build for those?

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18 May 2015 22:22 #224564 by Jake the Brit
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Nope, but a pair of calipers....and a week or so later. Blamo!
No problemo.

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19 May 2015 06:46 #224566 by T. Eastman
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Channeling Pemberthy...

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20 May 2015 06:22 #224568 by Norseman
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I don't mean to rain on anybody's party.... but I have a concern.

Seems like the flicklock mechanism could be forced open pretty easily while jamming the shaft into the snow, especially in firm or chunky conditions. I suggest incorporating some sort of method to restrain the lever. Maybe a zip-tie or a hose clamp.

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20 May 2015 09:43 #224569 by Jason4
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Why not make the head diameter of the spike at least as large as the flick lock lever?

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20 May 2015 10:04 #224570 by Stefan
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just make a different bottom shaft....it is easier to put on an off with gloves on. Such a small thing is nice for weight..but I can see troublesome with gloves.

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20 May 2015 11:05 #224571 by Stefan
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or...you somehow you could create a collapsible basket.

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20 May 2015 11:23 #224572 by BrianT
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Reminds me of this below. If you can incorporate a whippet to this design below, you will win big bucks!

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20 May 2015 13:05 #224574 by Charlie Hagedorn
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A clever and elegant idea. Nicely done.

Tread carefully using the term "ice ax" to describe the modified self-arrest ski pole. Self-arrest pole shafts are strong, but they're not B/T rated. It may be wise to chat with an attorney to select language and instructions that accurately represent what the product can and cannot do.

Pole-latch damage is apt to become a concern on thin snow/rocks.

USPS has a 1/4" thickness limit on cheap mailing. You'll probably have to work a little to find a sufficiently durable envelope to ship 'em without cutting their way out of the envelope. Sending grease pencils with AvyStickers was more complicated and expensive than I expected.

Very best of luck dealing with the tax/business overhead associated with tiny production runs. It was eye-opening.

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21 May 2015 22:14 - 21 May 2015 22:17 #224583 by Jake the Brit
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Here's the thing:
The BD whippet cam-lock closers are aluminum, not plastic, although they've done a pretty good job of making them look plastic.
I put one on the grinding wheel just to check.
Sure, you might screw one up, but it won't happen with one hit

It's for
Fast & light: where your stuff may not last forever, but it will get you to the top.
Where you can't take everything, cos you'd have too much & you'd never stand a chance.

This whippet-thingy was made just to deal with the top 200' of nasty snow. So it you're booting up & your pole-handle isn't quite penetrating, the thingy is on your handle, small enough to have lived there forever.
One day you may need it, then you pull the bottom pole sections, stuff them down your back between your pack straps, basket upwards, fiddle the thingy in place & blammo, you're happy , cos you thought you were goping to fall off, & Now you have a 3% better chance of staying on. Hmm, I just made that figure up??$%#^*!. Thanks Charlie H for advising caution.

That's it.
I'll make a few & keep then in all sizes &. I'm not going to turn into a sales manic & thanks fellas & ladies for being supportive
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22 May 2015 08:56 #224584 by Jason4
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I still think you should increase the diameter of the head of your spike.  If you're plunging it you'll hang up on the flick lock and maybe again on the soft grip that's half way up the shaft.  If you're concerned about the sharp edge on the top of the spike catching and pulling the spike out as you pull the whippet out of a plunged hole then just add a chamfer there.  If you're not plunging then the stock whippet tip is fine for my needs. 

If your concern is weight then drill out the middle, if your concern is having to finding larger round stock to start with I got nothing for you.

Cool idea, you should develop it further.

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24 May 2015 20:52 #224588 by Lisa
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I think it's a brilliant idea for those occasions when we need more than our whippet tip and shorter.

Thanks for hooking Jeff and I Jake!!

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24 May 2015 21:54 #224589 by Kenji
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I wished having one on Snowking summit! Great idea, i just made one for myself. $20 is a good price, I spent hours in my basement. Thanks!
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25 May 2015 22:48 #224593 by Amar Andalkar
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Here's the thing:
The BD whippet cam-lock closers are aluminum, not plastic, although they've done a pretty good job of making them look plastic.
I put one on the grinding wheel just to check.
Sure, you might screw one up, but it won't happen with one hit


Interesting idea, Jake.

By the way, the Flicklock Pro closer is actually stainless steel, not aluminum. Aluminum wouldn't work at all in such an application, it has minimal springiness and would brittle fracture almost immediately.

So the closer is even more rugged than you thought, and should survive fine in the use you're intending, since it's both harder and stronger than the 7075 aluminum that you're using for the new tip.

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