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Alpental / Snoqualmie Mtn AvControl - Fall 2012
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The phone line has actually been in service for a couple years but the message has been consistently the same, “No Avalanche Control Operations are Scheduled at This Time”. Almost everyone is carrying a phone these days so the hot line seems like an appropriate means for instantly available info. We hope to pull off the live firing at a time when there is just enough snow cover to see shot placement effectively but not enough on the ground to make ski touring very desirable. We are thinking early November but we will have to let the actual weather dictate some of that. Right now it’s anyone’s guess, but commonly these early snows don’t stick around and it will still be a little while longer.
I’ll update this posting as we get a little closer to the actual event, and also advise when it’s time to begin the winter uphill touring restrictions in the ski area. Thanks as always -Gib
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Is it possible the teams involved could provide an N-hour-ahead guarantee that signs/phone numbers will be updated, especially for training work?
There's more than one way up Snoqualmie; nobody wants to head down the Phantom into artillery fire. It's possible to make a quick phone call while you rip skins atop the peak or cross Cave Ridge.
I cross-posted your announcement to nwhikers and cascadeclimbers, linking to this thread. I'll delete the posts if Gib/Alpy/WSDOT do it officially.
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Is there anyway would could post signage in the parking lot and the trailhead for both Snow Lake and Snoqualmie Mountain (maybe uphill of the brush cut area) about these plans? How will you ensure that there aren't people up on Snoqualmie Mountain when you conduct the tests? Plenty of people like to hike Snoqualmie Mountain on foot too.
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Thanks for the comments.
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Siren sounds awesome.
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Thanks for patience / G
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SNAFU'd with lingering fog, and weather looks to be going the wrong way for foreseen future. We are now just postponing this mission until things look a little more settled. Sorry if we inconvenienced anyone, and I will of course try to post here with at least a day or two's notice when we try again. /G
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Any plans for avalanche control work Friday 12-7-12? Any restrictions at this point for skinning up chair 1 and or chair 2? Thanks!
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Hi Gib,
Any plans for avalanche control work Friday 12-7-12? Any restrictions at this point for skinning up chair 1 and or chair 2? Thanks!
Ditto on that queston Gib!
*looks like a potentially epic day... IF the weatherman is right..
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According to hotline nothing is restricted. But it was a few weeks old. Assuming if there was any change, the message would be updated. Which states travel is allowed. So unless I hear differently on here, I will have to go with that assumption and hope for the best.
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that section took it's toll on me today.
thanks Rob & Bram for the fabulous intel on this site regarding
the mountain you help to keep safe for us.
your friend
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i felt bad going down rollen with 10 folks struggling with the up.
that section took it's toll on me today.
thanks Rob & Bram for the fabulous intel on this site regarding
the mountain you help to keep safe for us.
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You shoulda felt bad! You know better than anyone that there's so many other ways down without having to roll over the up track at that cruxy spot. ;D It's all just fun and games I guess.
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ARTILLERY TARGETING NOW SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 13th, THURSDAY
The signs will go up today and we will have personnel on site starting very early so please do not plan to travel the SW slopes of Snoqualmie Mountain that morning. If weather cooperates we will be done by early afternoon and open it all back up. These closures do not affect the Snow Lake Trail or the Pacific Crest Trail but will close the uphill for the Phantom side.
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Please help us pull this off and don't plan to hike on Snoqualmie Mountain tomorrow THANKS /G
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Can you give me some background on the uphill touring restrictions at Alpental? I don't have a lot of history touring this area; there were no signs or restrictions that I was aware of last spring following resort closure. But I went to explore yesterday AM and there were signs stating no touring when the resort is closed, and spoke briefly to a pro patroller who said roughly the same thing. So I went to Hyak instead.
I'd like to get the specifics on when and where the touring restrictions are in the area. There is some great terrain out there, and while I do have a Summit Season Pass, I'd like the chance to get into some of that terrain with a little more solitude (Mondays).
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Gib normally posts each year when the signs are going up and coming down. Just take a look back earlier in this thread.
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please do a search.
You will find other threads started by Gib, or posts that he has made in other peoples threads on the subject.
Basically it amounts to this (short of Gib posting here with the official version):
Once the Alpental is in operation for the season and control work is actively being performed on the mountain, uphill traffic is only allowed after you have checked in, provided that control work is complete or there is no current hazard. This is a 24-7 rule that applies to all terrain within their permit area, from the beginning of the season, to the end.
The big concern as I understand it, is unauthorized skiers on the mountain while the patrol is performing control work. There isn't a lot of terrain at Alpental that isn't a run out zone. People who tour while the patrol is trying to get their work done, put them selves and in some cases, the patrol at considerable risk. Also unauthorized people on the mountain means that control work will likely be delayed, which leads to a delayed opening.
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