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Topic: where to mount? Dynafit STs on rossi S7 (Read 1621 times)
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steadyski
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OK, I've read some and talked to some about where to mount my St's on 188 rossi S7. i ski a lot of different terrain but my love is for powder in the trees. I'm 65, 5' 9" 165 lbs. i ski fast and am moderately aggressive. the options appear to be +1, boot center, -2. Any thoughts would be welcome and I know i got carried away buying these but couldn't help myself when rei was selling them for $400.
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I mounted mine +3, but I like to land backwards every once in awhile. The tips do like to dive on the really deep heavy days... Buddy mounted his at 0 and it skis more like a traditional mount ski and is not as twitchy. Never skied a negative mount s7 though.
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Why not demo some, note where your boot sole mid-point lines up, and decide how they work for you? Probably safer than soliciting advice from strangers on a ski forum . . .
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Who has s7 for demo or rent?
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gregL
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Try Crystal Mt. (360-663-3043) - though it's pretty late in the season and the 2012 skis may have been sold off.
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Robie
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Boot center or 3/8" forward . With a 17 m turning radius me thinks you won't have any trouble initiating turn.
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Andrew Carey
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S7 binding position
IMHO, there are 2 approaches: (1) what me worry?--mount at 0; (2) fanatic--consider the following:
Ski characteristics: construction--S7 long, wide, floppy shovels (rocker in the front, strong camber underfoot) and skinnier tails so the tails sink and the shovels rise in soft snow and length (if you buy shorter or longer than Rossi's recommended length for your weight you may want a little forward).
Snow characteristics: soft snow vs crud vs a full mixture--from hardpack to deep powder. Performance on firm snow, I think, benefits from being dead centered on the relatively short cambered section; crud, maybe a little forward; powder at 0, unless you bought short. IMHE, differences in snow are best handles by differences in skiing technique, assuming you are using the S7 for what is was designed for--short to medium turns in deep snow.
Skier characteristics: skier weight (determines how easily camber is compressed and shovels bent), height (leg length determines where center of gravity rests) skier style (how much pressure is put on tongues, back seat skier, centered skier, aggressiveness--all interact with weight and height). And of course, tendency to do jumps, ski switch, etc. which I have no intentional knowledge of (ended up airborne a couple of time last year on S7s and backwards once).
Obviously all 3 categories are interactive, therefore you need references from somebody of your weight, height, style, the snow you hope to ski, and the length you bought. The epic ski link provides some of that.
My 188 cm S7s are soooo easy to ski in soft snow, with a little effort they will do a smeary carve on firm snow; but I'm 230 lbs and my firm & crud snow ski is a 191 cm Volkl Mantra (no rocker or early rise, heavy, damp, stiff).
All this b.s. is why Marker came out with the Schizos LOL
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« Last Edit: 05/27/12, 07:42 AM by Andrew Carey »
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... want your own private skintrack? :-) better move to the yukon dude ....(B'ham Allen, 2011).
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Andy Carey, Nisqually Park, 3500 feet below Paradise
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Big Steve
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ST's on 188 rossi S7
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I'm 65, 5' 9" 165 lbs.
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Hmmm not sure what you mean? too old, too skinny, too short?
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Hmmm not sure what you mean? too old, too skinny, too short?
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Ignore him( Big Steve)....he's just upset because you're not asking about vapor barrier socks. 
I skied S7's extensively for two seasons before getting something lighter but still a similar shape( DPS 112RP). I mounted on the line but if I was to do again I'd mount at +1. The ski is designed to be rode as a slarvvy ski so +1 or +2 helps that loose feeling IMHO.
Loved that ski...damn heavy though!
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« Last Edit: 05/30/12, 08:48 PM by Scotsman »
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Dynafit on S7 is a bit like putting a graphite rear spoiler on a sherman tank.
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« Last Edit: 05/31/12, 01:38 PM by Joedabaker »
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If it's called common sense, why isn't it more common?
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Big Steve
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Hmmm not sure what you mean? too old, too skinny, too short?
This: Dynafit on S7 is a bit like putting a graphite rear spoiler on a sherman tank.
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I know lots of people who put dynafits on S7's and ski with them regularly. If you like tech bindings why not put them on a heavy ski.....not everybody wants alpine binders or any of the frame style bindings on their skis, even their heavier skis. I know I will never put anything but a tech binding on ANY future ski I buy...I like the low weight even if offset by a heavier ski.
Sure you will have to accept the repercussions of lesser durability, lesser retention, not huckable to any great extent and you wont be able to rip like a World Cup racer but if you are willing to accept that ..why not?
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I'm with Scotsman on this. Am a Scot myself. In any case I'll mount these up and take them skiing.
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I'm with Scotsman on this. Am a Scot myself. In any case I'll mount these up and take them skiing.
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There you go Steadyski!!!!!!
Damn..... I was right yet again 
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Yep, Scotsman knows what he's talking about. I've got 178 S7s with Dynafits (I'm 5'5" 130) and have them mounted at +1. Sure, I'd love to have the weight savings of 112 Pures instead of the S7s, but the bank account made that decision for me! It's a really fun setup and I was pleasantly surprised that they don't feel heavy on my feet when touring.
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Yep, Scotsman knows what he's talking about. I've got 178 S7s with Dynafits (I'm 5'5" 130) and have them mounted at +1. Sure, I'd love to have the weight savings of 112 Pures instead of the S7s, but the bank account made that decision for me! It's a really fun setup and I was pleasantly surprised that they don't feel heavy on my feet when touring.
I'm adding this to my ever growing list of accomplishments on my tag.
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Yep, Scotsman knows what he's talking about.
He does not need encouragement Pandora.
My Dad always said, don't argue with a fool. He'll bring you down to his level and whip ya with experience.
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He does not need encouragement Pandora.
My Dad always said, don't argue with a fool. He'll bring you down to his level and whip ya with experience.
I certainly have experience with the S7 having spent two seasons of over 90+ days each riding them. From what I remember you skied them for two days and then sold them because you hated them.
"If the world should blow itself up, the last audible voice would be that of an expert saying it can't be done."
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^^^I did not hate them, just to flimsy/floppy and to much wasted excess fore and aft. Not made to charge hard for a big guy with my technique.
Why did you ditch them if they were so awesome for touring?? My guess would be the weight? Trading to lighter gear.
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^^^I did not hate them, just to flimsy/floppy and to much wasted excess fore and aft. Not made to charge hard for a big guy with my technique.
Why did you ditch them if they were so awesome for touring?? My guess would be the weight? Trading to lighter gear.
Wanted something lighter for my advancing years and smoke stained lungs....plus that tail.....not supportive enough for my tailgunning shenanigans.
But PNWBrit( banned for life) tours on his S7's with dynfiddlies all the time and he's pretty quick in the skintrack and manages all day on them without flopping into a heap..... well most of the time!!!
It's a viable set up, maybe not the ultimate for weight weenie queens ..but adequate and if the OP likes them...go for it and ignore the haterz and smuglies.
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^^^Agreed and I would go at least plus 1 on the mount as well. It may make the kick turn a little easier too.
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Well..... this has been interesting. And I was sad no one really responded at first to my original plea for advice. I'm thinking -1 or boot center. Thanks to all especially Scotsman I hope to return your kindness at sometime. At least I consider it a kindness.
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Uhh....You mean like this advice that was in the thread...
I mounted on the line but if I was to do again I'd mount at +1. The ski is designed to be rode as a slarvvy ski so +1 or +2 helps that loose feeling IMHO.
I've got 178 S7s with Dynafits (I'm 5'5" 130) and have them mounted at +1.
I would go at least plus 1 on the mount as well. It may make the kick turn a little easier too.
I know so much BS it's hard to read any of it.
I would not go -1 especially at your size, weight.
+1 is the way IMO as we all mentioned in the thread.
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