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11 Jul 2011 21:03 #201142 by Scotsman
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Jesus H.Christ, it's "Lost while ski touring season again." ::) ::) ::) ::)
What is wrong with you people????

Keeping all your gear together and not dropping stuff is part of the ski touring skill.
Only thing I've lost in 8 years of touring is my mind.

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11 Jul 2011 21:56 #201143 by Robie
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Check with lost and found at the MRNP ranger station.
They might have one that is better than the one you lost ;)

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12 Jul 2011 00:10 #201144 by lernr
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Jesus H.Christ,  it's "Lost while ski touring season again." ::) ::) ::) ::)
What is wrong with you people????

Keeping all your gear together and not dropping stuff is part of the ski touring skill.
Only thing I've lost in 8 years of touring is my mind.


Maybe you need more challenging situations then :)

Cheers
Ivo

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12 Jul 2011 00:30 #201145 by trees4me
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Sorry Scotty.  I'll admit it:  I lost my balls.  I was staring down the entrance to shot 4 in early May and they just fell off.  Didn't even notice them as I retreated down the fan...

If you find them, I'd gladly give you a six pack for returning them 

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12 Jul 2011 02:44 #201147 by Markeyz
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Sorry Scotty.  I'll admit it:  I lost my balls.  I was staring down the entrance to shot 4 in early May and they just fell off.  Didn't even notice them as I retreated down the fan...

If you find them, I'd gladly give you a six pack for returning them 


Are you sure they're not in your wife's purse?

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12 Jul 2011 10:23 #201152 by Scotsman
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Sorry Scotty.  I'll admit it:  I lost my balls.  I was staring down the entrance to shot 4 in early May and they just fell off.  Didn't even notice them as I retreated down the fan...

If you find them, I'd gladly give you a six pack for returning them 


Me too.... I have not only lost my mind but lost my nerve on several occasions and I make no excuses for the fact that I don't like steep and hardpack skiing... never have, never will... and although it diminishes my street cred... I'll live with it.
Therefore Summer skiing = so overrated ( for me)= can't wait for winter to come again.

However, I have never lost gear, dropped ice-axes, crampons, poles etc and always find the TAY LOST SEASON somewhat bemusing frankly. Keeping your stuff with you and not falling of your pack or forgetting to pick them up would seem to me to be a rather basic ski/mountaineering skill. Apart from the littering of our beautiful lands , I think it shows a basic sloppiness and I certainly wouldn't want to tour with somebody that wasn't able to manage the complexities of keeping ones gear intact and with them.

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12 Jul 2011 12:35 #201153 by gravitymk
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^^^
Think of it as "Scavenger Hunt" season. :D

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12 Jul 2011 13:29 #201154 by wooley12
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This thread has given me a great idea!!

New Post- re: lost back pack

Hey. I'm at the top of Silver Peak and just discovered I left my pack at the trail head. Green Lowe weighing about 35 lbs. with food and beverages. If anyone spots it, would you please bring it up? I'll be here until 3 P.M. Thanks.

sent from my phone

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12 Jul 2011 13:56 #201155 by Scotsman
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This thread has given me a great idea!!

New Post- re: lost back pack

Hey. I'm at the top of Silver Peak and just discovered I left my pack at the trail head. Green Lowe weighing about 35 lbs. with food and beverages. If anyone spots it, would you please bring it up?  I'll be here until 3 P.M. Thanks.

sent from my phone


I have your pack and will deliver it to you for a reward or if not paid within 24 hrs, it will be mine and I don't care if Johnathan S posts my e-mail address. ;)

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12 Jul 2011 14:20 #201156 by Jim Oker
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Who cares if it's not your partners doing the losing and thus presumably it is causing you more or less zero inconvenience?

I hadn't ever noticed this seasonality before, so I have to admit that you got me pondering. Is it really that seasonal, and if so, is it because of the mellow stupor that can be induced from relaxing in the sunny mountains, or perhaps some cognitive dissonance due to a sense that it's time to hike instead of ski? Or is it that things slide/roll away faster and further this time of year when you drop them on an incline? I think you should to a study and determine the root cause, Scotsman!

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12 Jul 2011 16:13 #201158 by Scotsman
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I think it is seasonal and if you check the TAY record for past years, we do usually go through a marked LOST season where this phenomena appears.

Who cares even if it doesn't affect you personally? My God man , this is TAY and no minute detail of the ski touring experience shall be left unmolested or dissected. Your logic could be applied to many things that we discuss on TAY that do not affect us personally but you are just being argumentative and dismissive because it's me.

Is it due to stupor, cognitive dissonance, hard surface/gravity interaction???? Not sure, maybe all or none.

However, I do think it's mainly due to sloppiness, lack of experience and partially due to the fact that spring/summer touring tends to bring out the beginners more( NTTIAWWT..being a beginner that is)

It may seem benign and so what, but frankly I think keeping your gear together and not dropping and loosing stuff when in the mountains is pretty important safety/ mountaineering wise. Drop a crampon , or lose your ice-axe, or leave it at camp, midway through a serious tour and you could get into trouble.

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12 Jul 2011 17:15 - 12 Jul 2011 17:55 #201162 by Jim Oker
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Yes, the "newbie factor" may well be significant here. And yes, of course, there's some safety risk associated with gear entropy en route (just as there is safety risk with choosing a challenging tour, skimping on food for tours, and any number of other common behaviors).

No, it's not "because it's you," though I'm unsure whether you'll buy that statement. This one fits into that category, like smoking, where the behavior has the most significant impact on the person doing it, followed by those closest to them (in this case, trip partners). Sure, with smoking there's the hit to the insurance pool, and here there may be some potential for SAR activity or whatever which of course imposes some risk on those who help with SAR. But in any case, this comes off to me as about the same as a rant about smokers that includes a comment that is basically aimed at shaming them - I'm just generally not wild about such public rants. But as long as we're talking about you, it does make sense  for the chief etiquette officer to start this sort of thread.

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12 Jul 2011 17:50 #201163 by Scotsman
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. But as long as we're talking about you, it does make sense  for the chief etiquette officer to start this sort of thread.


Exactly, and thank you for recognizing that fact. You know of my deep concern for correct touring etiquette and dropping stuff all over the BC is not good etiquette or very good technique either.
These LOST people need to recognize that and improve their game.

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12 Jul 2011 20:46 #201166 by CascadeSkier
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...hmmm...so...

why do folks lose gear while touring?

because they are:

1) in a stupor
2) inexperienced
3) etiquette challenged
4) cognitive dissonanced
5) in icy conditions
6) in a fall line too difficult for their ability
7) experiencing gravity
8) mindless
9) no longer producing sperm
10) sloppy
11) lazy
13) lost
14) victims of thieves
15) victims of good samaritans
16) tired
17) impaired via that alaskan in the pack

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12 Jul 2011 21:08 #201167 by Scotsman
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...hmmm...so...

why do folks lose gear while touring?

because they are:

1) in a stupor
2) inexperienced
3) etiquette challenged
4) cognitive dissonanced
5) in icy conditions
6) in a fall line too difficult for their ability
7) experiencing gravity
8) mindless
9) no longer producing sperm
10) sloppy
11) lazy
13) lost
14) victims of thieves
15) victims of good samaritans
16) tired
17) impaired via that alaskan in the pack


Only my opinion but to answer you.
2), 3), 8), 9), 10), 11), 13)and 16)

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13 Jul 2011 08:53 - 13 Jul 2011 15:48 #201178 by mtneer ordinaire
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Between Windy Pass and Silver Peak, someone recently lost their shorts.

My tour partner and I suspect it was due to their choice of pre-tour beverage.  If you go there now you won't find the pair of shorts, empty beer cans, spent fireworks or cigarette butts.

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13 Jul 2011 17:58 #201180 by peteyboy
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Thanks for the garbage sweep. On this weekend's tour up Boulder-Park, we plucked off all the garbage we came across except, admittedly, someone's abandoned used blue bag. Seriously, man.

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13 Jul 2011 23:36 #201190 by CookieMonster
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I have lost enough hats to make a gigantic rug.

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14 Jul 2011 15:34 #201200 by aaron_wright
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I have lost enough hats to make a gigantic rug.

Did you lose them while on a smoke break?

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