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<br>Why you deify Lowell Skoog is your own business; however, it does not give you the right to attack, insult, or otherwise slander me. <br><br>In the future I will do my best not to disagree with anyone that you find 'sacred', to spare myself the mighty wrath of 'Ops'. <br><br>Now how about identifying yourself? Or perhaps you are 'ashamed' to?In my mind Lowell is one the most respected and distinguished mountaineers in the PNW. Criticizing him in the petty and patronizing way pbelietz did I find similar to criticizing a religious figure that you may find sacred.
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<br><br>What I found most distastful about Pb's initial post was that Lowell actually died. Death is not a subject I find humorous.I took it as an elaborate, well-intentioned joke, though not in the best of taste
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<br><br>And that would be errant in the sense of: <br><br>"1: traveling or given to traveling <an errant knight>...?" <br><br>Or perhaps:<br><br> "2 a : straying outside the proper path or bounds <an errant calf> b : moving about aimlessly or irregularly <an errant breeze> c : deviating from a standard (as of truth or propriety) <an errant child> d : FALLIBLE...?" <br><br>Yes, I recognize myself in this description: a fallible, deviant, aimless outsider somewhat prone to traveling. Thanks for providing the mirror, Sky. <br>Marharf, I would also encourage you to consider yourself a 'sprayer-errant'.
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It's also a beautiful spring day, I'm in no hurry, and I've got an overnight pack full of useful gear. It's a little different situation than what I was commenting on. But maybe not that different. I'd be willing to entertain the argument that I was being reckless. I was only 25 at the time. About the age of the Mt Blum crew. I'm 48 now. I still like to throw helicopters.
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<br><br>Safety analysis happens all the time in high risk sports. Most people think it's a good thing. Usually it happens post mortem (literally). That's unfortunate.<br><br>I added some more thoughts over in the Mt Blum thread that explain why I think it is worth discussing here.<br>How much is acceptable and by who's definition? "You took too much risk doing that" is one of my favorites....<br><br>Why go (insert favorite sport here) that could be dangerous...<br><br>The group in question determined the risk was acceptable, that's enough IMO.
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I totally agree, risk analysis is a good thing and always must be done. The part that I disagree with is the 20/20 hindsight, you should have done this or that comments. There is no question one must think of the location, time, what will happen if scenarios...etc. Every story has many possible endings, discussing the alternate endings to raise awareness is necessary, but must stop short of casting blame. Your comments, Lowell, are well written, don't blame and deserve to be heard, a fine example of what should be done.
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