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Re: 09 Apr 2010 - Dawn Patrol - Commonwealth Basin
« Reply #25 on: 04/14/10, 11:29 PM »

Wow, it this
I tend to go with the voice of reason, and not pow turns.
But Loren and I both have families and find it completely selfish to put ourselves in harms way as the BC was on those epic days. That's why i chose to ski in bounds those days.

It all comes down to choice and your level of comfort, and most of that comes from experience, educating, teaching and preaching.

Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted.

Life is short, spray hard

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Re: 09 Apr 2010 - Dawn Patrol - Commonwealth Basin
« Reply #26 on: 04/15/10, 12:20 AM »

The issue is not the trees but how they relate to the terrain. You can ski to Pineapple Basin and trigger small avalanches in the trees that have nowhere to go because of the configuration of the slope. Are the trees below a large path, above an unsupported slope of out in the middle or a bowl? Context will inform you how safe the tree skiing is.

The accidents occurred near or in actual avalanche paths, so does that make the trees a poor choice? That depends on how the terrain relates to the hazard. Spatial variability is one of the reasons why you can ski in heavily timbered, low angle terrain in high hazard and have a great day.

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Re: 09 Apr 2010 - Dawn Patrol - Commonwealth Basin
« Reply #27 on: 04/15/10, 06:54 AM »

MY personel rule of thumb.
DO the the trees run all the way up to the ridge line? Is there a starting zone above the trees?
I'm of the opinion that the ups and downs of temperature  of our marine climate  causes tree bombs which in turn helps stabilize stands of old growth. All bets are off if there has been sustained deep cold or heavy rain .

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Re: 09 Apr 2010 - Dawn Patrol - Commonwealth Basin
« Reply #28 on: 04/15/10, 11:29 AM »

I'm not trying to be snarky, but CascadeClimber made these posts with the convenience of hindsight. This doesn't make him look smart or experienced ... it makes him look awfully sanctimonius.

This is your assumption.  I'd be willing to bet CC didn't just read a Seattle Times article and think it was dangerous out there.  A 5 year old could have identified that...Everyone knew it would be a risky, but some have different risk tolerances, some know less risky terrain, etc.  I've toured with Haggis and he's quite experienced and plays it smart.
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