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OCT 29 Muir
« on: 10/29/09, 09:48 PM »

What a difference a day makes.
Snow Bell and I got to the gate today at 9:00 ish . Gate opened at 10;15 ish.
Rainiing hard at paradise. I was ready to bag it. Joe says" will be snowing up there".
We skinned from carpark up trail.
Wind howling and knocked me off my feet once. Rain follwed us up all the way until I ran out of motivation at about 8,800. Raining hard at 9000 ft.
Ski down was survival skiing in porridge.
Managed to ski to car park with a couple of carries where trail is now rocky.
Very wet, very windy and hypothermic weather.
There was brave couple who started up after us but we never saw them above Pan Point. I think they had sense.
We were only car at paradise when we got back down, soaked to the skin.
Wednesday was the day.
Could be a skating ring when it freezes again.
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Re: OCT 29 Muir
« Reply #1 on: 10/29/09, 10:47 PM »

Wow.  I was up there last Thursday.  Posts a day or two ago made mine look horrible.  Yours makes mine look great!

I think I'll wait another two weeks!  It's hard though.  Just bought a whole new suit and want to put it to the test!
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« Reply #2 on: 10/29/09, 10:52 PM »

Wow.  I was up there last Thursday.  Posts a day or two ago made mine look horrible.  Yours makes mine look great!

I think I'll wait another two weeks!  It's hard though.  Just bought a whole new suit and want to put it to the test!
Yep it was nasty, if you look at the telemetry there was some high max wind speeds. It would blow  steady for a while and then you'd hear a wave coming in and brace yourself.
Definitely a snow eater today and hope enough base remains for the weekend so people can skin from the car park bu tit was getting iffy in some spots.
Yep, its hard , we're all champing at the bit to get this season started.
Saved my streak though!!
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Re: OCT 29 Muir
« Reply #3 on: 10/30/09, 06:52 AM »

We were the couple behind you guys.  I was going to ask if you were Scotsman but I could never quite catch up to where you were.  I have seen your car before.  I figured anyone smoking (cigarettes) and skiing had to be European (are you really a Scot??).   It sounds like you guys didn't go to much further then we did.  Skiing Washingtons finest freshest slush while dodging rocks wasn't the greatest day skiing I have ever had but a day skiing still beats a day at work.   It is pre-Halloween skiing after all.   Did manage to set off an east facing foot thick wet slab slide.  It didnt have any room to run but I was surprised with as little snow that it was actually able to let go.  There were a few natural releases also.
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Re: OCT 29 Muir
« Reply #4 on: 10/30/09, 08:12 AM »

We were the couple behind you guys.  I was going to ask if you were Scotsman but I could never quite catch up to where you were.  I have seen your car before.  I figured anyone smoking (cigarettes) and skiing had to be European (are you really a Scot??).   It sounds like you guys didn't go to much further then we did.  Skiing Washingtons finest freshest slush while dodging rocks wasn't the greatest day skiing I have ever had but a day skiing still beats a day at work.   It is pre-Halloween skiing after all.   Did manage to set off an east facing foot thick wet slab slide.  It didnt have any room to run but I was surprised with as little snow that it was actually able to let go.  There were a few natural releases also.

No the slide at the start of the snowfield was a natural. It has run before we got there. The snow was getting saturated. It was a wild day wasn't it. Yes I'm a Scot. You must have seen me having my pre-skin cig at the car.
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Re: OCT 29 Muir
« Reply #5 on: 10/30/09, 10:38 AM »

Wow, nice work guys- I cannot believe you made it up that high with that nasty of conditions. Sure shows your perseverance.

Any pictures of the horrendous conditions? Between the two of you there was probably none but I figured I would ask.

Glad your swine flu is better.
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« Reply #6 on: 10/30/09, 11:10 AM »

Wow, nice work guys- I cannot believe you made it up that high with that nasty of conditions. Sure shows your perseverance.

Any pictures of the horrendous conditions? Between the two of you there was probably none but I figured I would ask.

Glad your swine flu is better.

No ,it shows our stupidity!
No pics.
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Re: OCT 29 Muir
« Reply #7 on: 10/30/09, 11:22 AM »

No ,it shows our stupidity!

Speak for yourself stupid!

I was out having tough guy practice.  My cushy life of sleeping in, hanging out with kids and sitting in my recliner necessitates artificial adversity to keep my man index high.  Besides, all of my ski gear got washed.

No the slide at the start of the snowfield was a natural. It has run before we got there. The snow was getting saturated.
There was another slide on the ridge just below the natural that we came across that I saw on our way down.  That must have been the one that they let loose.
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Re: OCT 29 Muir
« Reply #8 on: 10/30/09, 11:31 AM »

Wow, you really did have it bad. Sounds worse then H1N1.

Must be the antibiotics I'm on. I felt nothing like that yesterday morning.
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« Reply #9 on: 10/30/09, 11:44 AM »

Speak for yourself stupid!

I was out having tough guy practice.  My cushy life of sleeping in, hanging out with kids and sitting in my recliner necessitates artificial adversity to keep my man index high.  Besides, all of my ski gear got washed.
There was another slide on the ridge just below the natural that we came across that I saw on our way down.  That must have been the one that they let loose.

I didn't want to be the one to call quits and obviously neither did you. In the end, I was the quitter and even your optimism ,"we could be mssing out out on powder 1000' higher", not enough to bring me around. Embarrassed
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Re: OCT 29 Muir
« Reply #10 on: 10/30/09, 12:02 PM »

The rain @ 9K was indisputable.

My thoughts of powder 1000' higher gave way to the realization of another 1000' of driving rain and wind.

Can you imagine had we continued to Muir and sought refuge in the shelter how miserable it would have been to re-emerge in those conditions soaked to the bone?  That would have sucked much worse than the simple transition in the rain @ 9K.  Good thing I had the voice of reason and experience along.  Grin
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« Reply #11 on: 10/30/09, 02:08 PM »

Courageous. I need to increase my manliness by a factor of 2.1. Does biking in the rain count?
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« Reply #12 on: 10/30/09, 02:38 PM »

Courageous. I need to increase my manliness by a factor of 2.1. Does biking in the rain count?

Only if you wear shorts and no gloves. Wink
Nothing courageous in our trip nor implied, sometimes revelling in the glory of bad weather becomes its own reward when the skiing is bad.
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Re: OCT 29 Muir
« Reply #13 on: 10/30/09, 03:25 PM »

perhaps "ardently hoping" for snow is just not enough... but look on the bright side:
survival skiing is an important skill in the ski-mountaineering repertoire.  You are now better prepared for life changing descents.
Also, being an x smoker, I attest that the universe hates cigarettes. I expereinced a 67.5% increase in vert feet of powder as soon as I quit.
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« Reply #14 on: 10/30/09, 03:38 PM »

I went outside without a jacket on the other day.

Yeah, pretty manly.
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Also, being an x smoker, I attest that the universe hates cigarettes. I expereinced a 67.5% increase in vert feet of powder as soon as I quit.
How did you give up smoking, cold turkey, nic patches, chantex???
I've tried them all.
Cold Turkey-- the people I live and work with made me smoke a cigarette because I was so irritable.
Nic Patches-- Had to pull over in my car once as I just heard some bad news about a job we were working on , started smoking  as a result with a nic patch on that I had forgotten about. Nearly had a nicotine ovedose and felt like I was fainting as I was driving.
Chantex, dulled the effects of the nicotoine so I smoked more to try and "beat" it. Gave me weird dreams aswell.

Wanting to give it another try though
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Re: OCT 29 Muir
« Reply #16 on: 10/30/09, 06:43 PM »

I went outside without a jacket on the other day.

Yeah, pretty manly.
Lol,
 It was like being back in Bariloche again Marcus.
Thats what I said to Snowbell,
"last time I skied in conditions as shitty as this I'd caught 5 planes , travelled for 36 hrs and spent a lot of money, at least this is much cheaper".
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« Reply #17 on: 10/30/09, 06:56 PM »

I was thinking also how two people have brought up I was smoking, not that I mind , I don't but it made me realize that heckling somebody for smoking has become socially acceptable in America even if you are not doing it in their vicinity.
I mean turn the tables.
Lets say
I was standing in Paradise and noticed a skier in another car who was say obviously overweight eating a hamburger would it be socially acceptable to then say in a post " I noticed you where eating a hamburger and thought you might be American as eating hamburgers when obese is very American"
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If somebody had posted a TR and had a picture of themselves obviously overweight, would it be socially acceptable to say " I noticed in the photograph you are eating again and obviously a bit overweight, you will get more vertical if you cut back on the food intake chubby." Cheesy Cheesy
HAHHAHAH it's a weird world we live in and I find the continual evolution of social mores fascinating.
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« Reply #18 on: 10/30/09, 07:29 PM »

Having skied with Scotsman a few times, I will admit I would never catch up to him if he didn't stop to take a puff now and then...I don't think it's slowing him down one iota.

BTW, was it me with the hamburger?
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« Reply #19 on: 10/30/09, 07:54 PM »

BTW, was it me with the hamburger?

Well I didn't want to say anything at the time and the double whopper at the trailhead was just carbo-loading right ?  , but when you brought out your Macdonald's Happy Meal at the top of Table mountain and then complained and started crying because you didn't get the Princess Leia toy , I knew you had a problem!
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Re: OCT 29 Muir
« Reply #20 on: 10/30/09, 08:21 PM »

the trick Scotsman, is to put some money into it. You gotta get a smoking buddy who also wants to quit and make a bet. First person to smoke (yes taking a drag counts) looses. Works every time. No cigarette is worth a few hundred bucks. And you gotta trust this dude, otherwise it turns sour quickly.
I suggest getting a little drunk first, it helps to make the bet in the first place.
On that note Im through with telling a perfect stranger how to live his life.
Best of luck man!
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« Reply #21 on: 10/30/09, 08:44 PM »

I've smoked plenty that I'd have paid $100 for.

Many of them have been scottie's.

The 11th essential.  Well maybe 12th.
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« Reply #22 on: 10/30/09, 08:52 PM »

Best of luck man!

Interesting, make it like a competition with pride and money at stake. Sound perfect for me!
Finding a buddy who smokes, wants to give it and who I trust...mmmm..... thats gonna be very hard.
The wife smokes a bit, wants to give it up but... I don't trust her! Damn. Grin

No problem on the advise, I actually appreciated it, shows you care about your fellow man. My comments regarding it being socially acceptable to heckle smokers just my observations and internal musings on why one thing is OK and another not which I truly find fascinating.
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« Reply #23 on: 10/30/09, 09:16 PM »

I've smoked plenty that I'd have paid $100 for.

Many of them have been scottie's.

The 11th essential.  Well maybe 12th.

Now that I think about it,it probably won't work as there have been times when I would have paid $2000 for a cigarette. Like on the 11 hr flight to Santiago. There was a brief moment when I thought " Only a $2000 fine for tampering with the toilet smoke detector, It would be worth it."

You and I really are reinforcing the stereotypes though, both European skiing smokers.

BTW You still owe me $100 for that one I gave you at 13K on Rainier when you had run out.
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« Reply #24 on: 10/30/09, 10:29 PM »

Chris, it was really easy for me to quit. Did it cold turkey, last smoke was in the ER parking lot just before they rolled me in to the cath lab, 4 years since the heart bypass and I only get the urge daily. Vicious habit. Good luck.


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