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Topic: Missing snowboarders last winter??? (Read 14818 times)
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alecapone
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There were no heroes on the mountain yesterday,  PICTURED: The walkers - Me, zackalope, Andy, Marcus, russ, snoslut, jdclimber, Randy Beaver, Stugie. NOT PICTURED: The skiers - Joedabaker, Kyle Miller, Scotsman.
I think you are wrong. I see a whole group of them. Way to go guys.
he·ro Audio Help /ˈhɪəroʊ/ [heer-oh]
–noun, plural -roes; for 5 also -ros.
1. a man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities.
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I want to offer my profound thanks to all of you who came out and helped yesterday. It is such a huge relief to me to have found them while they were still buried. And your willingness to stick it out when it went from a search to a recovery is clearly above and beyond the call. I am particularly grateful to Scotsman, for both starting this thread and for pulling what must have been a lonely, difficult duty on a windy ridge. I'm proud to have spent a day with all of you.
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Very well put Lowell,
I add a special thanks to Scotsman who made action out of what others were just thinking.
Crystal Mountain ski patrol played a very active role and were a surprise addition to the group meeting (the skiers) right as we got to Bluebell Pass.
I am not a religious man, but there must have been Mountain God(s) power guiding us to their location. There would have been better odds finding a needle in a haystack.
There are no words that justify the feelings that I experienced yesterday working with TAY and Crystal Mountain volunteers, Dave and Megan. The relief that our mountain men can be brought home to their families.
It was emotionally filled to say the least-up, down and sideways.
To paraphrase what Justin said, "That so many could work together with really no leader is amazing!"
There is a sense of bonding that may never be spoken by the searchers, but forever felt by me.
I have now made several lifelong friends in one day that would have taken me a lifetime to make.
Joe
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If it's called common sense, why isn't it more common?
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What a kind effort to undertake....amazing
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To all of you,
I don't even have words to thank you for helping Dave and Jerry and Megan find our friends. I can only say that Phil would have done the same for any of you, in a heartbeat. I didn't know the other two boys but my guess is that they would too, just because that's the kind of friends Phil had.
This may not be "politically correct" on this board, but I'm gonna say it: Please, all of you, please, remember that Nature isn't merciful. Phil was a brilliant man and knew what he was doing--and he met his end on that mountain. Please remember that brains and strength aren't always enough. Please go forth from here with just a tiny bit more caution.
I'm sorry. I'm just devastated by this. The only way this can make sense to me is if someone else is helped by learning from Phil's experience.
Thank you. All of you.
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Without a doubt, yesterday was the most rewarding day I've had in the mountains -- I was happy to be there and help in some small capacity and to do it in such great company. It couldn't have gone better than it did and, as Joe said, I feel a far deeper bond with all involved than the total time spent together would dictate. Thanks to all of you for doing a hard task well, and to everyone else who couldn't be there but have offered support. For the family and friends, I hope the chance luck we had yesterday makes it easier to find your peace with Kevin, Philip and Devlin's absence.
EDIT: flibby, rest assured that all of us yesterday will take away lessons and caution from the time we spent with them. I'm so sorry for you loss.
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jcocci
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Wow, great effort guys. Glad there is finally some closure for their families. Sorry for your loss.
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Scotsman
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The hero's in my view are Megan and David the family friends who searched independently many times and kept the torch burning for their friends.
Kevin, Phillip and Devlin must have been very special people to have created such love and loyalty and I wish I could have had the opportunity to have got to know them.
I was a privilege to have been able to join with Megan and David in their search.
My condolences to the families.
I gave my son a big hug when I got home and took him and his friend skiing at Chinook pass today. As I watched these two young vibrant 16 year olds discovering the joy of the backcountry , I thought of our fallen brothers and know they felt the same way about our sport.
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On the hike out from Bullion Basin yesterday (after it was determined that a helicopter recovery would not be possible that day) we met Paul Baugher hiking in. Paul asked me to send him the names of our party members and he sent me the following e-mail this afternoon:
I can't tell you enough how pleased we were with your group's efforts and success in the search yesterday. The fact that we were all working on the same goal of closure for the family, friends, searchers, etc and to have worked so well together in coordinating yesterdays efforts. I will put together an avalanche accident report for this and may need to contact you and some of the other members of your group. Do you recall the names of the folks that saw them near the ridge on the Saturday prior to the avalanche cycle? If so I would like to get their contact information.
I stressed the amazing "grass-roots" effort you all put together in news interviews yesterday and today. I hope they air it. That to me was a more important story than the physical findings they were interested in. That speaks not to how they died but more to how they were remembered and respected by their friends and fellow backcountry skiers.
On behalf of the Pierce County Sheriffs, Crystal Mt. Patrol and all that were involved in the December and recent search efforts I thank you for all that you have done.
Best Regards
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Scotsman wrote:
The hero's in my view are Megan and David the family friends who searched independently many times and kept the torch burning for their friends.
I agree.
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Larry_Trotter
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I didn't want to comment earlier because I didn't think I had much to add. However, I was in tears this morning as I read the reports coming in. I have been thinking about these guys, the victims, all winter and agonizing about the cold May. waiting for that snow to melt back a little. I see that we were all pretty much of the same mind.
You guys are heroes to me.... that you really are so talented, that you are always mindful and generous. The fact that you continuously practice your craft has paid off. I just want to offer my thanks to you for bringing this to resolution.
While my heart is somewhat heavy today, I also feel inspired to get back out to the hills.
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Lisa
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All of your efforts putting this together and making this happen is amazing and really shows the heart of TAY.
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Lowell_Skoog
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Here's a KIRO-TV story that apparently ran Saturday night. They handled it pretty well I think, including an interview with Paul Baugher. There is a video link with file footage of the December search and still photos of the snowboarders:
http://www.kirotv.com/news/16679043/detail.html
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All of your efforts putting this together and making this happen is amazing and really shows the heart of TAY.
Thanks to Charles Eldridge for providing, maintaining, and moderating this forum which brings us ski partners, parties, and a supportive community in good times and bad.
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I just want to send you and the entire group the biggest thank you I can offer. This last weekend a group of 11 members of your group joined my brother in the search of his best friend's body. Phil Hollins was one of the snowboarders that died in an avalanche this last December. With all your help they were able to find his body and the bodies of his two friends that were with him. I cannot thank you enough for all the closure you have helped hundreds of people feel. But mostly I want to thank you for helping my brother.. He went up to the mountain and joined the search and rescue teams that were looking for the three of them and I know it broke his heart to come off the mountain without his best friend of over 20 years. Well now you have helped him to find his friend which means more than you will ever know. Thank you so very much.
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Thanks to Charles Eldridge for providing, maintaining, and moderating this forum which brings us ski partners, parties, and a supportive community in good times and bad.
Couldn't agree more and I would like everybody to know that Charles contacted me privatley prior to the search and asked if he should create a special pop-up on this site reminding evrybody of the search and encouraging participation. After some thought I declined his offer as I was worried that too many people might show up and the situation become unmanageable.
That was my judgement call and I'll live with it but Charles was extremely gracious and supportive.
Thanks Charles!
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I'd like to reaffirm Scotsman's point-that the true hero's are Megan and David, and the timeless nature of the love they and others felt for the lost parties was the real lesson of this situation. I can only feel, after witnessing their efforts and determination, unfortunate to have not known Kevin, Devlin, and Phillip in life. The esteem with which their surviving loved ones obviously held them in speaks volumes about what they meant to the world, and the magnitude of loss that their departure was.
Nevertheless, during a weekend in which one of the other headlines in the Seattle PI this morning spoke of "5 dead in separate weekend shootings", I think we all have had a real visceral reminder of a few things-
1) The opportunities we have to do good in the world, and how valuable those are.
2) The importance of brother/sister hood in our little sub culture we call backcountry skiing.
3) The value of each day, and the loved ones who make those days.
I'm honored to have been given the opportunity to participate, and my thoughts are with the families. If you ever have the opportunity to visit the basin, and I hope you do, I hope you'll see it as a unique and beautiful chapel from which to depart this mortal plane. I can only hope when my time comes I'm as surrounded by what matters to me.
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All through work today I thought. I could not do much else. I thought about the mountains, pure and unbridled. They call to us, and we answer. We seek refuge there. The necessity of the mountains to our souls, as important as blood to our viens, is never fully understood by those who do not hear the call.
Someone I consider to be a close friend once told me that when high in the mountains, seeing a hawk represents the soul of someone whose life was taken by the mountains, but whose soul was a part of them. Scotsman could hear the hawk's cry - we all wanted to know what it was saying.
Kevin, Phillip, and Devlin were moved by the same passion that engulfs our souls. What I find to be amazing is that through them, posthumously, a group of individuals with the same goal and the same passion were brought closer. Much closer. I want to steal Joe's words, thatthere is a sense of bonding that may never be spoken by the searchers, but forever felt by me. I have now made several lifelong friends in one day that would have taken me a lifetime to make.
Three families and numerous friends found closure. Three hawks can now be seen in the sky, soaring and screaming, "The mountains are our home!" The spirit of the mountains cannot be silent. It rumbles through the glaciers and whispers through the wind. It screams through the birds and babbles with the streams. To me, it becomes most appearant when it is felt as the border between life and death becomes very, very, real. And yet surreal is that which brings people together and allows us to cry in joy and pain, experiencing our very mortality with a spirit that is immortal - seen in those present, and fueled by the spirit of Kevin, Phillip, and Devlin. We will learn from you and remember you. Every time I am in the mountains, I will feel your spirit. Thank you. Thank you to Dave and Megan, friends and family, for being strong and being sources of inspiration. The love displayed by all of you for these three has been etched into my heart and soul as that of the purest kind.
I want you to know that Devlin is Irish galec meaning "man of the mountains". I am planning to take him back up to his cathederal.
And their spirits will be ever-present as we continually head to the "houses where we practice our religion."
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"The mountains are not stadiums where I satisfy my ambition to achieve, they are the cathedrals; the houses where I practice my religion." - Anatoli Boukreev
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So I regret that I don't have a picture with everybody in it. I hope it is okay to post this picture as a way for us in the TAY community to send our thoughts to you, the family and friends Kevin, Phillip, and Devlin. Our hearts go out to you. PICTURED [L-R]: The walkers - Me, zackalope, Andy, Marcus, russ, snoslut, jdclimber, Randy Beaver, Stugie. NOT PICTURED: The skiers - Joedabaker, Kyle Miller, Scotsman. ALSO NOT PICTURED: The ski patrollers - Paul and Lynn Baugher, Jen, Ben, and Allison.
I also, concur that David and Megan's commitment, courage and strength were keystone to us searchers.
Once again, Thanks to all who volunteered and those who wanted to help, but schedules did not permit. Your intentions, thoughts and prayers transformed positive energy into a successful mission.
I had separate pictures of the Crystal crew, but none together.
Here are the skiers-
From Left Kyle_Miller and Scotsman 2nd pic Scotsman and Joedabaker
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A letter from Dr and Mrs Carter ( Kevin's parents) sent to me the next morning.
Dear Joe,
My wife and I were informed that you had found the bodies of the three boys by Lt. Fajardo of the sheriffs dept. last night. We had been following your web site during the day awaiting any news. Although this is very painful it marks the beginning of the end of our long ordeal. Now we can lay Kevin to rest and begin the healing. The waiting all winter long with the prolonged foul weather has been interminable.
We are extremely impressed with the way your mountain community found a sense of connection with these men that you had never met. You have truly been your brother's keeper and we are humbled in your presence. I hope that you will convey our gratitude to the others on your website.
For our part, we felt the need to do something positive in Kevin's memory. Shortly after returning home from Crystal Mountain my wife and gathered together funds from friends, family and colleagues for a memorial project. Because of their generosity, we were able to purchase a long range avalanche transceiver, helicopter deployed and presented that to the local search and rescue community. It has been in service since April. Next season things will be a little safer for those of you who travel in the back country. In surgery we have a superstition of getting out all of the big instruments, even when we might not expect to use them, just to ward off the evil spirits. May this ward off the evil spirits and we hope it is never used.
We cannot say enough to thank you all for your dedication and courage on the behalf of strangers.
God bless you all,
Stephen and Loraine Carter
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Wow -- thanks for posting that Joe. What a great gift to the community and a wonderful way to remember the lost. I think I'll be wrestling with Saturday in my head for a little while yet, but it was more than worth it. I'd do it again in a heartbeat, but I hope not to...
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She wanted to say THANK YOU!
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I am the grandmother of loggerdogger and I don't want any of you to not think yourselves as heros. You will always be heros and angels to me as most other would not have bothered. You are a very special group and I am glad that there are people like you. Faith in humanity is restored. I also have some climbing gear of Devlin's that I would like to give to someone who will use it and appreciate it as much as my son did. I know there is a rope and other stuff I am not too savey about.
Much love and eternal respect to such a wonderful group!
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... I also have some climbing gear of Devlin's that I would like to give to someone who will use it and appreciate it as much as my son did. I know there is a rope and other stuff I am not too savey about.
Many don't know this but Scotty comes from a rather extensive mountaineering background. I suspect he could put Devlin's climbing gear to good and hallowed use.
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“Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future.” - Niels Bohr
"If a given person makes it a priority not to die in an avalanche, he or she stands a very good chance of living a long, happy life in the mountains." - Jill Fredston
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I thought I might share with you folks a rather noteworthy paradigm shift I had today.
You see, I've never cared much for the "Moderator" title that appears under my screen name in my posts.
When Charles started up this forum I agreed to help ,along with Mark, as moderator, but it never occurred to me that I would be "labled" moderator. I guess I expected that I would be like a "lurking moderator", just kind of helping to keep and eye on things but not publicly recognized as such.
When one day I noticed the title next to my name I was a bit chagrined. I considered it somewhat of a dubious distinction. Possibly the feeling came from my aversion to authority and "the establishment". Or maybe it was because I didn't really do much; especially compared to what Mark did; he was a great moderator. I even tried to find a way in my personal profile to nix the moderator title.
After some time it got to a point where I actually called Charles and asked him if he could do away with the title for me. He said that he couldn't; that the software required that the title appear with the name of any member that had access to the moderator functions. He offered that if I didn't want to help he would let me off the hook. But I didn't want to abandon him, so I just continued to live with and be mildly self conscious of the "ugly blemish".
Now, thanks to the HUGE contribution of this community to humanity in general and specifically to the families of Kevin, Phillip, and Devlin, it has occured to me that I am openly proud to be called a "Moderator" of this community. It is an honor and a privilege to be associated with you all.
Thank you all for caring so much about your brethren.
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"If a given person makes it a priority not to die in an avalanche, he or she stands a very good chance of living a long, happy life in the mountains." - Jill Fredston
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