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Re: Missing snowboarders last winter???
« Reply #25 on: 06/19/08, 12:02 PM »

I would like to help but am only able to go on Sunday.  Is there any chance folks will still be meeting on Sunday pending no results on Sat?

Maybe a follow up post late Saturday would be helpful so if others want to go  out Sunday we can make arrangements. 

Thanks for getting this going Scotty!
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« Reply #26 on: 06/19/08, 12:33 PM »

Thanks Lisa, we'll post on Saturday night when we get back
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Re: Missing snowboarders last winter???
« Reply #27 on: 06/19/08, 01:25 PM »

Seattle folks-Anyone interested in carpooling Saturday AM?

Those dead dinosaurs are getting expen$ive! I have a subaru impreza wagon w/ box, can accomodate 3-4 people plus gear......
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« Reply #28 on: 06/19/08, 01:43 PM »

Sounds good Randy -- I've got one other fellow who PM'd me who probably needs a pick up from the Magnolia area.  I may have one or two other friends coming along, but I haven't heard back yet.  If we have more than the Subaru can hold, I've got an 8 passenger Astro van (8's cozy, but 6 is pretty roomy).  Was thinking to get on the road around 5 a.m. -- sound about right?
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Re: Missing snowboarders last winter???
« Reply #29 on: 06/19/08, 01:55 PM »

I'd also like to carpool with Seattle people. I live in Kenmore, so could come down either side of the lake. Could ride with others or take 3 passengers.

- Russ
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« Reply #30 on: 06/19/08, 02:53 PM »

Okay, we've got a decent group building.  So far I've heard from Russ, Randy, Justin and one other fella for carpooling arrangements.  I'm collecting phone numbers and I'll make some calls tomorrow night to work out the details.  Anyone else who wants to get in on the carpooling, PM me your phone number.
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Re: Missing snowboarders last winter???
« Reply #31 on: 06/19/08, 03:10 PM »

Topo maps are good in all, but here's a visual of the actual terrain...

(Red circle indicates location of the shelter.)



If nothing else comes up...I'll be there.  I'll be coming from Sumner / 410.
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Re: Missing snowboarders last winter???
« Reply #32 on: 06/19/08, 03:31 PM »

I'm gonna say I can take 2-will be bringing canine. I live on lower Queen Anne, 1 blk off Aurora 99 VERY accessible.
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« Reply #33 on: 06/19/08, 05:13 PM »

Topo maps are good in all, but here's a visual of the actual terrain...

(Red circle indicates location of the shelter.)



If nothing else comes up...I'll be there.  I'll be coming from Sumner / 410.

thanks Snowslut, very very useful,
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Re: Missing snowboarders last winter???
« Reply #34 on: 06/19/08, 07:11 PM »

unfortunately have to count myself out of the running for carpooling...I have at least 1, posibly 2 extra walkie talkies. See y'all @ 7
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« Reply #35 on: 06/19/08, 07:14 PM »

Indeed -- thanks Snoslut.  I thought it was quite a bit farther down than that.

Scotsman, did your anon email have any idea when that big slide let go?  When we were leaving the area that day, skiing along the top of Crown Point, along the ridge to Bluebell and back up to drop into Bullion, we were staring down into those tempting gullies.  They'd not yet slid at 2 or 3 o'clock.  We skied the lower angle slopes on skier's right side of Crown a few times before heading out ahead of the incoming weather.

Carpool-wise, if Russ and jd want to meet at my place then head over to pick up Zack, that would work.  I'll give you guys a call.  Scotsman, are you on your own for the drive?
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« Reply #36 on: 06/19/08, 10:50 PM »

I'm interested in helping Saturday. I won't know for sure if I can go until my wife returns from a business trip Friday afternoon. I can drive or carpool and live in north Seattle (Maple Leaf).
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Re: Missing snowboarders last winter???
« Reply #37 on: 06/20/08, 12:27 AM »

I could get myself to a more accessible location on Saturday morning if need be.

I'll bring three radios, and if I can get it to wake up and find some satellites, a gps.

Zack
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« Reply #38 on: 06/20/08, 07:59 PM »

Just got a report from Joedebaker who hiked up to the Bullion Saddle and went down the slope part ways today. Tremendous effort Joe andthanks. Joe will post a report and pictures but what I wanted to point out to participants is that based upon Joe's report, the snow cover is minimal on the East face and although there may be a way to ski down it looks like it's going to be more of a hiking effort than skis or boards , which is good news for the search effort.

Based upon Joe's report I am still going to bring my skis but leave them up at the top for a possible run at day's end but am going to wear mountaineering boots rather than ski boots for the hike and carry my ski boots attached to my skis. Lowell Skoog was kind enough to contact me and suggest that based upon these conditins, this would be the best footwear as the vegetated slopes we will be hiking on are slippery for sneakers.

Use your own judgement based upon Joe's report which will be posted shortly.

Thanks
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« Reply #39 on: 06/20/08, 08:45 PM »

Wow, great job Joe -- thanks.  Glad to hear there's so little snow cover.  Definitely increases our chances in the immediate future.  The north end group is meeting at the 65th Street park and ride at 5 a.m.
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Re: Missing snowboarders last winter???
« Reply #40 on: 06/20/08, 09:43 PM »

As Scotty mentioned I took a trip out to the Union Creek. I went up from Crystal to to the Union Creek location where I last saw those guys.
The trail has patches of snow up to Bullion Basin where it is mostly snow covered in the basin.
There was a little scramble and snow covered slope to the saddle over to Union.
I was not prepared, I had sneakers and borrowed some poles and a really old pack that had to tie the waist band. I was just driving by OK.

Anyway, The snow on the East flanks that Dave's map shows "likely areas" is mostly patchy, there are spots where wind load or slides have accumulation up to 3 feet deep, but mostly shallow in the sun.
I traversed NE under  rock cliffs from the last seen location looking up  and down hill, going off trail down into some of the avalanche terrain, The terrain is steep, but other than the scree areas it can be managed to down climb. But it is strenuous and a little hard on my old knees. I did not go too deep down to limit knee pain.

So East faces are patchy and steep,
Moving to Crown Point and over to Gold Hill there is still ample snow NE and N slopes down to the basin.
Down in the basin there appears to be good melt on the Eastern end and as you go South to the North facing slopes the snow pack is deeper. In the basin at the "likely areas" would be good searching. There seems to be ample water in the basin, to avoid having to bring to much water.
If you plan to bring skis, I can direct that route to the hut and basin route.
We need to discus the plan tomorrow.

We may be able to use the Gold Hills road near SandFlats to access the trail, I am uncertain if the road is snow, rock, washout and tree free yet. But there is ample parking at the trailhead from the road.

I have a webpage to look at photos of today UNION CREEK RECOVERY. There is Dave's map indications of last seen spot and there route form there. Also, where the hut may be and potential ski routes to access the area in the basin.
See you in the morning.
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Re: Missing snowboarders last winter???
« Reply #41 on: 06/21/08, 05:38 PM »

I want each and everyone who searched for my son Devlin how appreciative I am and you are all angels to me.  I know how hard it must have been and very much appreciate all your efforts.  I want you to know that Devlin is Irish galec meaning man of the mountains.  I am planning to take him back up to his cathederal.  Much love and respect to all. I am sooooo proud of each and everyone.  As far as I am concerned  you are all my children and Iwill pray everyday for all your safety.  Once a mother always a mother Smiley
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« Reply #42 on: 06/21/08, 08:42 PM »

Since I got home tonight many people have emailed and called regarding searching on Sunday.
Your offers are much appreciated but there will be NO search on Sunday and  we will explain in later posts why not and can't say any more at present.

Thank you all
Scotty.
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Re: Missing snowboarders last winter???
« Reply #43 on: 06/21/08, 10:57 PM »

many thanks to all who contributed to the effort!  This is an increible community!
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« Reply #44 on: 06/22/08, 12:59 AM »

Just wanted to say what a great job you guys have been doing.  Here is the link to the Seattle Times regarding all this:

3 Seattle-area snowboarders' found near Crystal Mountain
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« Reply #45 on: 06/22/08, 06:47 AM »

Just wanted to say what a great job you guys have been doing.  Here is the link to the Seattle Times regarding all this:

3 Seattle-area snowboarders' found near Crystal Mountain

Tacoma News Trib
http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/394759.html
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Re: Missing snowboarders last winter???
« Reply #46 on: 06/22/08, 08:22 AM »

Great job everyone! This was an amazing effort!
I am sure this will bring some much needed closure to the families and friends of these three guys.
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« Reply #47 on: 06/22/08, 08:58 AM »

My wife and I wish to thank everyone in the TAY community that searched for our son and his friends, or prayed for us.  We are truly grateful for the efforts that you have made on our behalf.  This winter has been sooo long and seemed like it would never end.  Now we can bring Kevin home and begin the process of healing.

I particularly want to thank Joedabaker who has corresponded with us and sent some photos of his excursion on Fri.  They gave us hope.

We humbled by your concern and courage.

One last salute:  http://serieoro.smugmug.com/gallery/5228738_Z6s74#317608904_rcXLt

God bless you all,

Stephen and Loraine Carter
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Re: Missing snowboarders last winter???
« Reply #48 on: 06/22/08, 08:59 AM »

Wow, what an amazing community. We are blessed.

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« Reply #49 on: 06/22/08, 09:45 AM »

I like to write things down.  It helps me remember.  Memories enrich our lives.  So I hope it is okay for me to share a few memories from June 21.

First and foremost we remember the snowboarders who were lost in December: Kevin Carter, Phillip Hollins, and Devlin Williams.  Most of us didn't know them in life, but they were part of our community. 

A couple of threads about the December search can be found here and here.  Reports of conditions on December 1 and afterward can be found here, here, and here.

There were no heroes on the mountain yesterday, just members of the community who decided to spend a day looking.  Everybody contributed something: walking the search line, remembering details from December, mulling ideas, relaying messages, digging in the snow, offering moral support.

Special mention should be made of Scotsman, Joedabaker, Marcus, and Andy, who saw the snowboarders on December 1 and provided special motivation for the search.  It was a privilege to spend the day with David and Megan, long-time friends of the victims, who were pillars of emotional support when we volunteers were getting wobbly.

Our party of twelve volunteers split into two groups, nine on foot and three on skis.  This was a stroke of luck, because when the walkers made their discovery the skiers were in a perfect position (up on the ridge) to relay messages.  There were other strokes of luck yesterday.  We felt fortunate to have contributed to an ending which, while it was not happy, was absolutely right.

Tears were shed. 

Fears were confronted. 

Mysteries were pondered.

When we returned to the cars, I asked the walkers to pause for a picture, to remember the day better.  Later, when we rejoined the skiers, it was awkward and impractical to get everybody together for another shot.  So I regret that I don't have a picture with everybody in it.  I hope it is okay to post this picture as a way for us in the TAY community to send our thoughts to you, the family and friends Kevin, Phillip, and Devlin.  Our hearts go out to you.



PICTURED [L-R]: The walkers - Me, zackalope, Andy, Marcus, russ, snoslut, jdclimber, Randy Beaver, Stugie.  NOT PICTURED: The skiers - Joedabaker, Kyle Miller, Scotsman. ALSO NOT PICTURED: The ski patrollers - Paul and Lynn Baugher, Jen, Ben, and Allison.


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