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Title: SOLD BD Helio 105 185cm $400
Post by: jaker on 11/21/17, 05:51 PM
Brand new, unmounted in minty condition. Can ship to ConUS, buyer pays! See my craigslist ad for more info. Coming from Boulder, CO.

Listed for $550 on CL but for TAY friends asking 400.

https://boulder.craigslist.org/spo/6396361398.html


Title: Re: FS: BD Helio 105 185cm $400 (new out of plastic)
Post by: tele.skier on 11/23/17, 09:07 AM
I'm curious why you are selling these.  I have the helio's predecessor, the carbon converts which had a little more tail rocker.  When the helio design replaced the carbon converts, I wished that I had waited for them since I preferred the flatter tail for a tele ski...   What did you replace them with? and why? 


Title: Re: FS: BD Helio 105 185cm $400 (new out of plastic)
Post by: jaker on 11/23/17, 09:52 AM
Quote from: tele.skier on 11/23/17, 09:07 AM
I'm curious why you are selling these.  I have the helio's predecessor, the carbon converts which had a little more tail rocker.  When the helio design replaced the carbon converts, I wished that I had waited for them since I preferred the flatter tail for a tele ski...   What did you replace them with? and why? 


Good question! I'm actually looking for a more lively, playful, fun ski that'll work better for skiing switch and other resort duties. I'm also moving away from the backcountry for the most part this season and while I loved my Helios during the times that I did ski them inbounds, I definitely wouldn't prefer them as a full-time thing.  The Helio has been a blast to ski on for sure, and I'd 100% keep them if I could but I'm just not in a financial position to drop money on another pair of skis without selling first. :-(


Title: Re: FS: BD Helio 105 185cm $400 (new out of plastic)
Post by: myikat on 11/23/17, 01:51 PM
Note that BD does not recommend the Helios be used as a tele ski.


Title: Re: FS: BD Helio 105 185cm $400 (new out of plastic)
Post by: Randy on 11/23/17, 06:12 PM
Quote from: myikat on 11/23/17, 01:51 PM
Note that BD does not recommend the Helios be used as a tele ski.


The lightweight construction likely lacks the extra reinforcement needed to prevent binding rip out when used (abused) by "knee to ski" tele skiers.  The extra reinforcement would add 50+ grams to each ski.  Not insignicant on a ski that weights 1500 grams.


Title: Re: FS: BD Helio 105 185cm $400 (new out of plastic)
Post by: Amar Andalkar on 11/24/17, 12:39 PM
I'm definitely interested in these, although sadly I haven't had a chance to demo them due to BD pulling the plug on their demos the 2nd day of Alpental Vertfest 2017. That's a really great deal at $400, but would be a bit of a risk for me to buy a ski I've never tested. I had demoed their predecessor the BD Carbon Convert at the 2014 Vertfest and thought those skied great in a variety of powder, frozen groomers, and weird crusty snow over 3 runs.

The Helio would be a direct replacement for my 2010 Dynafit Stoke (130-106-120, 182cm, 1660g), which at the time was among the lightest skis available in its width, and has gotten over 100 days of powder-only use over those 7 years, so it's still in very good shape. But the Helio 105 has those beat by a lot with a claimed weight of 1550g per ski. And they would almost certainly ski better than the Stoke (which skied well, but I never truly loved) based on everything I've read or heard about the Helio, including strong praise from 2 Rainier climbing rangers who were on them this year. (Mostly I tour year-round on the 182cm Dynafit Cho Oyu except in deep powder, easily the best ski-mountaineering ski I've ever used by a long shot -- enough to now have skied 3 pairs of them since 2014, with 3 more pairs waiting in the wings for the future.)

So I guess I should decide quickly if I want to replace the Stoke with the Helio, before someone else snaps these up.

But I'm curious about the strange logo on the left ski, I didn't recognize it. Just a little bit of sleuthing and the amazing Google Image Search reveals that it's Carabiner Coffee. Is it just a sticker that is easily removable?



Title: Re: FS: BD Helio 105 185cm $400 (new out of plastic)
Post by: jaker on 11/24/17, 04:59 PM
Quote from: Amar Andalkar on 11/24/17, 12:39 PM
I'm definitely interested in these, although sadly I haven't had a chance to demo them due to BD pulling the plug on their demos the 2nd day of Alpental Vertfest 2017. That's a really great deal at $400, but would be a bit of a risk for me to buy a ski I've never tested. I had demoed their predecessor the BD Carbon Convert at the 2014 Vertfest and thought those skied great in a variety of powder, frozen groomers, and weird crusty snow over 3 runs.

The Helio would be a direct replacement for my 2010 Dynafit Stoke (130-106-120, 182cm, 1660g), which at the time was among the lightest skis available in its width, and has gotten over 100 days of powder-only use over those 7 years, so it's still in very good shape. But the Helio 105 has those beat by a lot with a claimed weight of 1550g per ski. And they would almost certainly ski better than the Stoke (which skied well, but I never truly loved) based on everything I've read or heard about the Helio, including strong praise from 2 Rainier climbing rangers who were on them this year. (Mostly I tour year-round on the 182cm Dynafit Cho Oyu except in deep powder, easily the best ski-mountaineering ski I've ever used by a long shot -- enough to now have skied 3 pairs of them since 2014, with 3 more pairs waiting in the wings for the future.)

So I guess I should decide quickly if I want to replace the Stoke with the Helio, before someone else snaps these up.

But I'm curious about the strange logo on the left ski, I didn't recognize it. Just a little bit of sleuthing and the amazing Google Image Search reveals that it's Carabiner Coffee. Is it just a sticker that is easily removable?



Woah! I'd be very stoked to sell these to you! The overall feel I got out of the Helio was great. They were my first ultralight ski-mo type ski and I was thoroughly impressed by their ability to let me feel at ease on a whole range of snow conditions, even coming from a heavier resort-type setup. I even skied them at Stevens railing groomer laps for a spell and they were surprisingly stable, snappy and fun for a ski that weighs 1550g.

And yeah, its just a little vinyl sticker! I actually work for Carabiner and was very excited to throw the sticker on there before I came to the decision to sell (whoops) but I can absolutely take it off!


Title: Re: FS: BD Helio 105 185cm $400 (new out of plastic)
Post by: Andrew Carey on 11/24/17, 07:51 PM
Quote from: jaker on 11/24/17, 04:59 PM
And yeah, its just a little vinyl sticker! I actually work for Carabiner and was very excited to throw the sticker on there before I came to the decision to sell (whoops) but I can absolutely take it off!


Wow, Jaker, I sure would like one of those stickers to put on my Cho Oyus! :-)


Title: Re: FS: BD Helio 105 185cm $400 (new out of plastic)
Post by: joew on 11/28/17, 08:52 AM
Jaker,
Still available?  If so, very interested.
Joe


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